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Gazelle
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03-07-2007, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by bamboo View Post
At the risk of sounding very unpopular, I simply cannot see the victims of the "9/11" attacks as soldiers, heroes or patriots. They were unsuspecting business people and bystanders killed by anti-american aggressors.

That is all.

I'm sorry to those that suffered a loss for this terrible incident, one that replays everyday in our world, but lets not start or continue to label them postmortum for actions and deeds they were not involved in.

bamboo (awaiting the flames)
I agree.

They did not put their life on the line willingly for the US, but were forced into it. Now some that died might well have been willing to sacrifice that for their country, but, that did not show from this. Even if an individual puts their life on the line for an individual it does not imply that they are patriots, but people with an inclination to help people, for what ever reason, if any.

Also, i think you can be a patriot and not a soldier, and vice versa. Just because you are a soldier, it does not mean that you are so strongly attached to your coutry that you are willing to die for it, it might be that they do it just because it seems respectful/to get the recognition, and, maybe because they like/seek the heat of battle. And, you can be a patriot and never have any training to fight, nor ever do, and, to be a soldier, you need to have done at least one of those, i think as a concept, and, speaking as a profession, you get the training at any rate (apart from those that were just dumped into a war zone, which fulfils what i stated previously), and you put on performances/carry out tasks/keep up training as a job (that is the key ingredient, they may not be doing it for any reason other than money, for their own person, or whatever reason).
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Perhaps slightly...whatever the word for it is....but, i think it's great all the same.lol.
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