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02-21-2008, 01:05 PM
| I did not, no. I took your post to mean that, rather than create, productively, what I have created, I should instead have channeled my time and energy into writing something else -- to which I responded that I have already written, and am actually currently writing, the something else in question. | | | | Super Moderator Black Belt 5th Dan
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02-22-2008, 02:52 PM
| As you well know, without tone, inflection and body language the net is easily taken as a hostile place. My apologies for the miscommunication.
bamboo
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02-22-2008, 03:33 PM
| No apology necessary, but thank you. | | | | Senior Member Black Belt 2nd Dan Join Date: Dec 1969 Posts: 1,453
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02-22-2008, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by bamboo As you well know, without tone, inflection and body language the net is easily taken as a hostile place. My apologies for the miscommunication.
bamboo | Well, i don't believe that i've ever interrpretted something as hostile, but i suppose, if you don't know the person/persona much, and you are put in a position where you feel you need to be defensive in some manner, i guess i could understand why one might.
As for the homeless topic, i'm afraid i've never had any contact with them, thus nothing to base anything on, especcially without reading the booklet in question.
I am, however, very glad to see that there is some new, 'deep' topics now being birthed here again.
On yet another note...Cool! Your published! I don't come into much contact with such people, infact, i think bamboo is about the only i know (hope you don't mind me mentioning it, bamboo, but i thought you wouldn't mind), but i do hope to some day change that and become one myself. Though, this is most definately not the thread to talk about that...i really hope i manage it some day, though, it's a bit of an epic what i've chosen to undertake for a first-timer!
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02-26-2008, 05:51 PM
| Well, after joining Phil's site and reading it quite thouroughly as well as going through the two booklets offered up here I simply see a very paranoid man mongering more hatred and fear for things he doesn't understand.
His views on the homeless, muslims, left wingers and those of us that simply find what he espouses very uncomfortable and sometimes quite offensive was enough for me.
You guys should join "Pax Baculum" and make up your own minds.
My personal favourite- mosques as watchtowers for the impending jihad......
His reality is VERY different from mine and quite frankly, I'm o.k. with that.
Have fun.
Bamboo
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02-27-2008, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Sharp Phil It is my assertion that the homeless -- street people in general -- represent a personal security threat as a demographic, and must be dealt with on these grounds. This is not bias, prejudice, or some sort of lack of compassion speaking; it is instead simply a recognition of reality. | That's an extraordinary claim sir, and extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Shame you provide next to none.
Sure, you quote figures on how homeless people are more likely to have mental illnesses and/or addictions (who woulda thunk it?!), but where are the actual statistics on homeless crime? Where are the facts and figures that caused you to reach this verdict? (I am of course assuming that you reached this hypothesis through the analysis of evidence rather than starting out with this hypothesis then finding evidence to fit it.)
The closest thing I can find in the entire pdf is the fact you mention that 84% of homeless people are men aged 25-54, and that it is men aged 25-54 that the Department of Justice says are most likely to commit violent crime. That's interesting, but 100% of men aged 25-54 are men aged 25-54. Does that make them more of a threat than homeless people? Maybe your little book should've been titled The Men Aged 25-54 Threat. Other than this sophistry, the rest of your "supporting" argument is anecdotal at best.
At the end of the day, without hard data, your report is less a reasoned, rational hypothesis and more a hysterical, knee-jerk rant. And one thing it most certainly is not is a "recognition of reality". Quote: |
As for "writing an amazing piece of literature," I am, in fact, a published author
| To which I say "So what?". I'm a published author. Jeffrey Archer is a published author. Hell, Ashida Kim is a published author!
I'm also an editor by profession and works of published authors cross my desk every single day. Trust me when I say, just because you're published, doesn't mean you're good.
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02-29-2008, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by bamboo Well, after joining Phil's site and reading it quite thouroughly as well as going through the two booklets offered up here I simply see a very paranoid man mongering more hatred and fear for things he doesn't understand. | You disappoint me with your unfounded personal attacks. | | | | Junior Member White Belt Join Date: Dec 1969 Posts: 12
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02-29-2008, 01:02 PM
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I'm also an editor by profession and works of published authors cross my desk every single day. Trust me when I say, just because you're published, doesn't mean you're good.
| Setting aside for the moment the fact you've completely missed the point of that exchange, I can say that I am equally unimpressed by you -- sadly. | | | | Super Moderator Black Belt 5th Dan
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02-29-2008, 03:39 PM
| Wow! I missed all these replies. I think I'll go read the material now - hopefully there will be some form of progressive and inclusive conclusion or strategic advice rather than just endorsing the telling of wino's to 'fuck the fuck off and get a wash before I stab you!'  Only joking Phil mate! TBH I treat most strangers with the same cynicism, homeless or not. Let me go read!
peace
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02-29-2008, 06:37 PM
| My personal favourite- mosques as watchtowers for the impending jihad......
Glad I could entertain you.
The plain simple fact is that in Iraq, Iran, and Afghanistan, mosques have been used as sniper platforms, weapon storage command posts, and observation towers by the jihadis. As I recall I said nothing about the coming Jihad(as opposed to the one that is already in place?) What I said was that I was "surprised that we let the enemy still build fortified observation towers in our midsts."
The jihadis have used this tactic before in their homeland and I don't think it would be unreasonable to think it could happen here.
some links for further entertainment
Insurgent training from the web,
WARNING REAL PEOPLE DIE IN THIS NEXT LINK , REAL AMERICANS DIE IN IT, INSURGENT SNIPERS IN ACTION
Articles referring to weapons in mosques Multi-National Force - Iraq - Weapons cache discovered in mosque near Tarmiyah USATODAY.com - Fallujah's mosques hid arms, militants CNN.com - U.S., Iraqi forces find Falluja's 'largest weapons cache' - Nov 25, 2004 Forces Capture Six Terrorists; Iraqi Police Find Weapons in Mosque
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