[zefff]

Welcome Bcannata but please STFU! This thread is about the homeless!

Our actions create our enemy.
Our enemy is like a mirror that reflects our own image. We are in them and they are in us - what disgusts you when you see your enemy is actually the produce of your own existence IMHO.
(consider that but please dont reply here).

I read up to page 11 of Phils PDF and had to stop there - its drivel! Sorry Phil but its presumptive, low brow and far from entertaining as is actually announced in its disclaimer. Infact the introduction acts to only highlight your own shortcomings, weaknesses, fears, paranoia and lack of reasoning powers whilst confirming my beliefs that housed citizens such as yourself pose more of a threat to the homeless, 'black, one-shoed' folk than they a threat to you.

I noticed the word 'hate' in the introduction. If hate comes so easy into our souls then are we as righteous and deserving as we claim?

After we eradicate the homeless who next?...Angry teenagers?...the Mentally retarded?..The elderly?...Muslims?...Jews ...anyone else who 'annoys' us?

Sorry but I cant be arsed to go to martialist.com because if the author is anything to go by I'm worried it will contain a community of weak minds who are afraid to live but afraid to die. Telling the black, one shoed, homeless guy to fuck off would have been a more honourable act than what was described IMHO. Weak! ...But thanks for the stimulus.

peace

[Bcannata]

Well Zeff
... ... Spare me the philosophical rhetoric. I was replying to a statement made directly about something I wrote by bamboo. So you can kiss my everlovin ass. I have the right to defend what I say. Especially when it has been taken out of context. I spoke of tactics not Ideologies. And how would you know what the homeless situation in the U.S. is Do you live here? Are you an ex patriot.Your tag says England. Do you always have to look over your shoulder when you take a frail loved one out to dinner. Do you have to worry when you stop in a public restroom when traveling. As Americans in big cities we have to deal with this every day. Until you have to live with it every day you can, as you so eloquently abbreviated. STFU .

[Gazelle]

Originally Posted by Bcannata

My personal favourite- mosques as watchtowers for the impending jihad......


Glad I could entertain you.

The plain simple fact is that in Iraq, Iran, and Afghanistan, mosques have been used as sniper platforms, weapon storage command posts, and observation towers by the jihadis. As I recall I said nothing about the coming Jihad(as opposed to the one that is already in place?) What I said was that I was "surprised that we let the enemy still build fortified observation towers in our midsts."
The jihadis have used this tactic before in their homeland and I don't think it would be unreasonable to think it could happen here.

some links for further entertainment
Insurgent training from the web,

How to defend your country from the USA: Iraqi Sniper manual

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WARNING REAL PEOPLE DIE IN THIS NEXT LINK , REAL AMERICANS DIE IN IT, INSURGENT SNIPERS IN ACTION

Broadcast Yourself.

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Articles referring to weapons in mosques

Multi-National Force - Iraq - Weapons cache discovered in mosque near Tarmiyah

USATODAY.com - Fallujah's mosques hid arms, militants

CNN.com - U.S., Iraqi forces find Falluja's 'largest weapons cache' - Nov 25, 2004

Forces Capture Six Terrorists; Iraqi Police Find Weapons in Mosque

So how does this make me entertaining?

Urm....have i missed something...what direct correspondence have the jihad with the homeless in the west?

[Gazelle]

Phil, i'm sorry to say that if Hengest and Bamboo are saying that you have no real evidence for criminal activity of the homeless, and, i have no reason to doubt it, especially given Hengest's apparent analysis of your piece, and your response to bamboo's questions.

So, relying on this, it kind of leads me to ask, what on Earth did the homeless ever do to you? Or maybe you are making some unjustified assumptions, that you somehow have missed???

Whether all published are good or not, i guess someone can't think they're too bad otherwise why would they bother publishing them? I would still rather like too...i've a little poetry collection not far off ready, and i might try with that, and then of course there's my book, which i don't get to write much, but which i would really like to finish.

[Hengest]

Originally Posted by Sharp Phil

Setting aside for the moment the fact you've completely missed the point of that exchange, I can say that I am equally unimpressed by you -- sadly.

I think you underestimate how unimpressed I really am...

[Bcannata]

Originally Posted by Gazelle

Urm....have i missed something...what direct correspondence have the jihad with the homeless in the west?

It was brought up in this thread because this is the thread where bamboo made the comment about something I said (mosques being used as observation posts yada yada) on pax bacculum. I really don't want to hijack the thread, I was just responding with facts to back up a statement. So let this be the end of it.

[Gazelle]

Originally Posted by Bcannata

It was brought up in this thread because this is the thread where bamboo made the comment about something I said (mosques being used as observation posts yada yada) on pax bacculum. I really don't want to hijack the thread, I was just responding with facts to back up a statement. So let this be the end of it.

My apologies Bcannata, i really didn't catch that (I really am so tired these days, and not feeling too well at the moment), and i didn't mean any offence, i was just a bit puzzled.lol. Thank you for enlightening me.

Now i've gone and unintentionally stuck my foot in it again, i think i should go and attempt metric spaces.

[Bcannata]

all is good

[zefff]

Originally Posted by Bcannata

Well Zeff
... ... Spare me the philosophical rhetoric. I was replying to a statement made directly about something I wrote by bamboo. So you can kiss my everlovin ass. I have the right to defend what I say. Especially when it has been taken out of context. I spoke of tactics not Ideologies. And how would you know what the homeless situation in the U.S. is Do you live here? Are you an ex patriot.Your tag says England. Do you always have to look over your shoulder when you take a frail loved one out to dinner. Do you have to worry when you stop in a public restroom when traveling. As Americans in big cities we have to deal with this every day. Until you have to live with it every day you can, as you so eloquently abbreviated. STFU .

HAW HAW HAW!!! Are you Phil Elmore? Look that wasnt no rhetoric, that just came out of my arse...but I believe the conclusions it draws up. If you think like you write, you would hate yourself if there was nobody left to fear. As a writer, yes you have the right to defend what you write but at the same time you want to prune the rights of a beggar to beg? Where is the logic? Your writing is offensive, can you see that?

I dont need to know about the US homeless 'problem'. Your article didnt exclude English readers in its disclaimer!

You don't have to look over your shoulders and you don't have to worry...thats the point of my argument! But its not my job to help you drop your bad habits. As you did in your article you have made assumptions...Do you assume I sit in my castle, sip tea and eat crumpets and have never been into a big scarey city with big scarey homeless beggars? Hahahahaaa!

I cant believe you are taking this seriously!

peace

[zefff]

"Your writing is offensive"

Just to clarify this - if I saw you eyeballing a poor, black, one-shoed, begging wretch with hate I would be offended by your lack of empathy (the ablility to imagine yourself in the situation of anotherperson). You dont have to hug the guy but you dont have to hate him.

Emapthy is the basic skill of any 'martialist' I would have thought?...or how else do you ascertain your enemies?

Good night