[Bushi]

Originally Posted by bamboo

My question- How do attack someone thats constantly "shrimping" from standup. What would be a sound strategy? I ask this from a grappling standpoint, no strikes.


-bamboo

I assume you mean passing their open guard (their down, you are up). I will give you suggestions for both gi and no-gi.



The key to attacking someone who is extremely mobile in their guard is controlling their hips. This can be done in a variety of ways. I usually control their legs by either pressuring them into the mat, elevating them to where their hips are off the ground or a combination of the two. This is the guiding principle when dealing with the guard period.

That being said, here is a suggestion for each.

GI: I establish a cross grip (ex. my right hand on their right leg)on their pants leg (about six inches below the knee). My other hand (left in this example) establishes a grip on their sleeve (just below the wrist, their right hand). Once this is established, I step to that side at about a 45 and jerk them into the air (like whipping the dust out of a rug) This causes their hips (via their right leg) to be elevated and thus immobile while I step in to go knee on stomach (my right knee). They settle with me in knee on stomach. I can then establish side control or attack with subs.

No-Gi: The above example can work no-gi, but it will be more difficult and the grips change to the ankle and wrist. Here is a better one.

When attacking the no-gi open guard, it is better to up the speed and athletic factor due to how slick things are. If my opponent keeps shrimping away, I will pin his down knee to the mat (my left hand pushes down on the inside of his right knee) thus immobilizing his hip as I dive in (while sprawling on top of the downed leg) and under hook his other leg (my right under his left) If I sprawl hard while penduluming (to my left) keeping his hips immobilized, I will pass his guard. Once I am 90 degrees to him and past the legs and my ear is on his hip bone (my left ear) I can realese the hand pressing on the leg (my left) and under hook his head to settle the position.


On a side note, during a scramble no-gi where the guy is shrimping away and re-establishing guard, try sneaking your near knee in to knee on stomach (KOS) as a quick blocker to him getting his legs back in. It is almost always there and most do not utilize it. You will probably not get to establish KOS fully since its no-gi, but it will block his hips enough for you to establish the pass.

Try that and good luck.

[Bushi]

Originally Posted by Galaknore

How do you set up the triangle when you are going for the double armbar, or when you have your guard way up high? do you just wait for them to pull an arm out, or do you push one arm out of the guard yourself? I keep getting to this position, but I can't finish it. Any help would be great.

Anytime you have your guard way up high on an opponent, he will feel it necessary to try and push himself away. This provides a great opportunity to "feed the triangle". Imagine that your hips are a Venus fly trap in this case. His wrist (which ever one) is the fly. Pull on his wrist, which should casue him to pull back. Once he pulls back, snap you legs open and smash (feed the wrist and arm, since they are connected) through your legs, then snap the legs back closed on the back of his neck. It is a quick and violent motion (element of suprise) just like the fly trap. You can now pull the head down and establish the triangle.

Work with this as a principle based technique and you will see the set-ups that start to develop.

Good luck.

[bamboo]

Thank you Bushi.
I will sticky this thread so please do check back as I know myself and perhaps others will continue to have questions as we develop in the ground aspect of the game.


-bamboo

[Bushi]

I will.

[Galaknore]

Since no one else is taking advantage. When you are going for the kimura from cross body or side mount do you put your knee behind the opponents head or do you hook your leg over it? I have seen it both and I guess I am wondering if it makes it easier to lock in the kimura either way.

[novabiker]

Bushi,

Where do you teach at? How long at purple?

[Bushi]

Originally Posted by Galaknore

Since no one else is taking advantage. When you are going for the kimura from cross body or side mount do you put your knee behind the opponents head or do you hook your leg over it? I have seen it both and I guess I am wondering if it makes it easier to lock in the kimura either way.

I step over the head and stck them on their side. The more on their side they are the better control you will have and pressure for the lock.

I step over their head spin up and on top of their head with my crotch. The same stepping leg drops to a knee behind their back while my other foot sucks in tight to their chest creating a vice on their torso. I trap their other arm by having my heel in their armpit while sitting or kinda kneeling on their head.

[Bushi]

Originally Posted by novabiker

Bushi,

Where do you teach at? How long at purple?

I have been teaching here www.kombatfit.com for a about two years, but just got my Purple a month ago.

Where do you train?

[zefff]

What to develop first, subs or sweeps? Keep in mind I dont really care for BJJ sport but might fight MMA in a few months.

I am subbing a lot of blue belts now after 5 months but find myself mostly using brute force or unorthadox movements to gain position. Should I forget working on subs and start working on developing sweeps and position?

(BTW my most successful subs are not armbars and triangles, I dont think Ive ever caught a higher ranked player with either).

[Bushi]

Originally Posted by zefff

What to develop first, subs or sweeps? Keep in mind I dont really care for BJJ sport but might fight MMA in a few months.

I am subbing a lot of blue belts now after 5 months but find myself mostly using brute force or unorthadox movements to gain position. Should I forget working on subs and start working on developing sweeps and position?

(BTW my most successful subs are not armbars and triangles, I dont think Ive ever caught a higher ranked player with either).

This is a great question. The most important thing is positional dominance. Postionally dominate a guy and the subs will come. From white to blue, I never concerned myself with learning the newest and coolest sub. I developed my top control, sweeps and guard passing ability. Develop that and suddenly submissions start appearing out of no where. The key to focusing on this is drills, drills, and more drills.

Play a lot of Pass or Sweep games when you spar. For those that do not know, Pass or sweep is a structured sparring session where you and your opponent are only allowed to either pass the guard or sweep. If one accomplishes this task, then you reset and start again.

Once again, Great question.