[bamboo]

Bamboo, your not thinking of taking an LEO on, are you? Sorry.

Sparring with a cop is no different than sparring an archivist- it all depends on thier training.

I am willing to be subbed or KO's by anyone.

[zefff]

Zeff, as for your comment on death, i don't think i'm afraid of dying, as such, but afraid of dying without doing 'something'.

Well I hope one day you will you be satisfied with your works.

[Gazelle]

Originally Posted by bamboo

Sparring with a cop is no different than sparring an archivist- it all depends on thier training.

I am willing to be subbed or KO's by anyone.

lol. I was implying about doing so in a setting, other than friendly. It was a bad attempt at humour.lol.

Zeff, me too! Otherwise i'll be a very unhappy women, at some stage. And, let it get far enough, i'll probably think something like, 'well, i wasn't much good, probably a good job i'm being taken from this place, maybe i can do better after i've died, or in my next life.'

[zefff]

Who too?!? I think you misunderstood. I dont care wether I do something or nothing as long as I find whatever it is agreeable to my conscience and beliefs...mind you I suppose we are born to do something no matter how small.

Consider the power of your own ego and answer this question - who will care wether you have done something or nothing when you have gone and why does it matter what they think anyway? Is something 'better' than nothing? When you are old something might have value for you but when you are gone what value will your something have to others and what does that value matter?

Does humanity as a community actually count for anything in the vastness of space and time? Do humans as individuals actually count for anything?

[Gazelle]

Originally Posted by zefff

Who too?!? I think you misunderstood. I dont care wether I do something or nothing as long as I find whatever it is agreeable to my conscience and beliefs...mind you I suppose we are born to do something no matter how small.

Consider the power of your own ego and answer this question - who will care wether you have done something or nothing when you have gone and why does it matter what they think anyway? Is something 'better' than nothing? When you are old something might have value for you but when you are gone what value will your something have to others and what does that value matter?

Does humanity as a community actually count for anything in the vastness of space and time? Do humans as individuals actually count for anything?

by 'me too', i meant i hope that i do enough to satisfy me too.lol.

Listen, quite frankly, i think it might be better for the world, and everything else if they got blown out of the sky, so to speak. But, that's not the point. I'm here, and that is quite out of the question, we have to make sure that the world is such that those that are here get what they need, and that everyone tries to coincide with nature. I just don't believe that those that live should be left to suffer, if they are not to blame, and we should not infringe on nature as much as we are?

Besides, as odd as it sounds, and, though i'm quite sure there wil be people who will contradict me about nothing having a purpose and all that, but i don't care. I believe that i am her to do something, to help things, and that's what i intend to do. And, for those that don't believe that they're here for something, well, fine, but remember, you and your children and so forth have to live here as long as humans survive, and we don't vacate the place, so, if for no other reason, follow nature's instinct to keep your bloodline healthy and start helping things get in a state where people can live here well. And, if you don't like that reason, how about stopping pretty much the entirety of the world becoming any worse mass murders, which, given all the species which have been sacrificied by us, i think is about time we stopped it. And, i don't care about the difference in the long, long run. We're here now, in this age, as well as anything else. I can't see why other things have to suffer for us to live, when there really is not tha much need to, if people were sensible, and politicians stopped talking and trying to agree. Sorry, went a bit too far, it gets me annoyed.lol.

Who will care after i have gone? Me, i like to know i'Ve done a good job. Perhaps the future generations might care for us not messing everything up for them, and killing lots of creatures that, unless they aren't opposed to genetic engineering, they'll never have the pleasure of seeing.

Preserving the species, that's what is engrained, so why contradict the thing which has kept so many different things alive?

Life may be an engineering of molecules, like a rock, but it is definately more complex, and for all we know there may be something more other than the 'scientific processes' that makes life what it is. Until we have a strong, backed up theory about the how's and why's of life, perhaps we shouldn't dismiss it so hurriedly as being 'inconsequential'. Heck, though we may suspect other life forms somewhat like us somewhere, how can we know for sure? If it's something other than scientific processes, this planet, with it's inhabitants might be one of a kind.

We may be inconsequential in the whole grand scheme of things, but, for all we know we may not be. Realistically, we have no idea what goes on out there, and, for all our science, we probably, without some leap of evolution, we will not know, whatever theories seem to align to observations, there are always other possibilities. Quite frankly, you could make your own theory up that coincides with what you have experienced, and if it explains all that, then by some principle called 'some name i canÄt remember' razor, i believe you could probably chose that one as your 'theory of everything', it doesn't mean it's true.

We can ask questions and talk philosophy all you want, but, given we really know nothing about how things work, they're just conjecture's, and nothing sound as to why we should break off from lifes' natural instinct, to preserve. And when the Earth decides to go belly up, there is no reason that we could not do something to make living easier, and when the sun decides to shut it's eyes once and for all, hopefully by then we would be rather good at spaceflight, or even know something about keeping the sun going.

We don't have hein sight, and we don't have an all seeing eye, at least yet.

[Gazelle]

okham's razor, i think, or something like it.

[zefff]

Hehehe! So you are here to live...cool.

[ericjones80]

the difference is that women are so much more emotional than men, and every emotion comes out stronger....joy, anger, sadness, fear

[Gazelle]

Originally Posted by zefff

Hehehe! So you are here to live...cool.

lol. Wasn't expecting that one.lol.

Yep, just like everyone else. May as well make the most of it while your here, right? But, i do really want other things, and people to live too, and i don'T want mine, nor any other persons life to infringe unneccesarily on their's.

My, this is one way to tell how much i'Ve changed since i started on here.lol. Been through a lot these last couple of years or so...i feel way older! Too much growing up in too little time, ah well, least i learnt a lot in the process, though not as much mathematics and physics as i would have liked.lol.

[Gazelle]

Originally Posted by ericjones80

the difference is that women are so much more emotional than men, and every emotion comes out stronger....joy, anger, sadness, fear

I do think how we are brought up makes a huge difference, but there is probably some general truth in there too. Though i think, perhaps not so much that they'Re stronger, but they tend to be more sensitive. Sensitivity can be gained, just as it can be numbed.

People who have experienced much grief through their lives either become very depressed, or rather distant (in whatever perspective), depending on the person and the circumstances. A person's anger for something diminishes with time, provided things aren'T changing with it.

Something new will always promote a stronger reaction than something we are used to (we generally speaking get used to things that have been around for a while, unchanging). If we are used to it, then it's just the way things are. Take a child for example, if they have been abused since very little, as far as they are concerned it's the way life is, whether they like it or not. i.e. the trick is to just accept it. If you'Ve been in a similar situation before, or experienced a similar emotion, then you find it easier to get one with things, generally, at least, i think so...i've not really thought about it apart from in the approx 10 mins i've taken to write this.