[shurite44]

Ok let me try this again, maybe this will interest someone.

Does anyone have an example of the round house kick being used in a traditional karate kata?

If you do please name the kata and try to describe or give the number of the movement.

[shurite44]

No comments on this??

[shurite44]

Ok, I will prime the pump on this thread. I do 19 kata as my regular practice. I probably have run another four or five that I never bothered to memorize. There is not one round house kick in any of these kata. Doesn't that strike anyone as a little strange considering how popular the round house kick is in modern karate?

Thoughts? Comments?

[bamboo]

Shurite,

Honestly, no.

I am however positive that if we looked at all the different forms of karate out there, we find at least one round kick.

I'm not a katateka so I've never really taken the interest to look. Maybe you could look into it and write an article?

-bamboo

[shurite44]

There are some round house kicks in some of the more modern TKD forms. I do not think there is a round house kick in any kata coming from Okinawa.

I was really trying to spark a discussion as to why this technique is not in any of the original Okinawan kata.

[znra251]

There are no roundhouse kicks in any shotokan kata, except for unsu, where there is a kick whilst laying on the floor which may be a roundhouse kick, or a side kick or even a thrusted front kick.

however, i believe there are no roundhouse kicks in karate kata because traditionally kicks were delivered low, maybe no higher than the knee. as a result roundhouse kicks seemed like a variety of sweep, which we do find in kata.

It is also interesting that a famouse instructor, (Sensei Kanazawa maybe, i will find out for you) tried to incorperate them into the kata Empi, so that following the rising punch and grap their was a roundhouse kick instead of hiza geri (knee)

check out my website to have a look at these kata, unsu in particular and make your mind up if its a round kick. I've got footage of a world champion, a european and a british and commonwealth champion all performing this kata, so you can watch the best.

www.karateonline.org

gary

[shurite44]

Nice web sight, thanks. My link to shotokan kata videos quit working a couple of months ago. I really appreciate you posting it here. I would call the kicks from the ground side kicks. Although they do resemble round kicks.

[haduken]

there is no roundhouse kicks in any traditional kata, as has been quite well documented in the past, people tend to use this as some form of basis for the lack of function of karate, or to somehow show that round kicks were never part of it... i find this to be rubbish... kata is not everything in karate, it is a part of it

[shurite44]

Originally Posted by znra251

It is also interesting that a famouse instructor, (Sensei Kanazawa maybe, i will find out for you) tried to incorperate them into the kata Empi, so that following the rising punch and grap their was a roundhouse kick instead of hiza geri (knee)


www.karateonline.org

gary

I think I have seen people at tournaments do a round kick in empi. It does spice it up a little for an open tournament. Many times in tournaments it is difficult to compete against open style kata. Of course it depends on the judges.

I personally love the feeling of that movement in empi though. The high lifting of the knee then dropping the weight into the punch, and then suddenly using the x stance to stop your momentum. Has a nice feel to it, especially for a big guy.