[kenpodog]

Hi everyone,
any Kenpo guys in here?
(other than myself)

[Gazelle]

Sorry, not me mate. However, if you want to talk about kenpo, and no one else pops up, then please go ahead, i'm sure i'll be able to ask plenty of questions.lol.

[bamboo]

Actually Gazelle, I think a few people here have at least had some practice in a few of the forms of kenpo out there. I'm assuming your speaking of japanese kenpo dog or do you include the american derivation as well?

-bamboo

[kenpodog]

I study American Kenpo,
but it's all good!!

[bamboo]

Cool, the Ed parker system?

Heres a question for you- Do you think that the timing, spatial awareness and balance you have through kenpo transfers into the bjj? I ask because I recently joined a subgrappling school and have found that my previous throwing experience has made a huge difference when it comes time to do a takedown and assume a strong position, something I see raw begginers struggling with tremondously. On the other hand, thers a karate guy with about 10 years exp. that seems to have teh timing of a drunken badger.

-bamboo

[kenpodog]

Yes, Ed Parker's American Kenpo (EPAK),
my school has modified the curriculum a bit
but basically it's the same.

Keeping in mind that I'm new to Jiu-jitsu,
I have seen some Kenpo concepts apparent
in BJJ.
marriage of gravity,
back-up mass,
establishing your base,
torque,
point of origin,
angle of deflection,
anchoring,
etc...

I don't pay too much attention to timing in Kenpo
except to slow down sometimes, I have a tendency
to flow or continue striking before the desired body
reactions happen. By learning various striking patterns
and rearranging them we can deliver quite a few strikes
in a very short period of time, however each strike sets
up the next by manipulating the body of the attacker.
Usually driving a body part into the next strike(s).

Spacial awareness, I'm going to assume is what we call zones,
Height (3), Width (4), Depth (7) and Obscure zones and we always
try to control these zones just as jiu-jitsu does.

Balance, yes balance is everything in any martial art.
Disturbing one's balance is key to making anything work.
Many of the same techniques such as pinning and locking
are very much the same between Kenpo and jiu-jitsu.
In addition many Kenpo foot maneuvers are similar to things
like sliding your leg back under yourself to establish your
own balance or base. I see a lot of that in jiu-jitsu from
standing up to applying technique to getting your legs
out of a grabbing or hooking zone.

One of the biggest advantages has been Kenpo learning
tools such as the "web of knowledge" and technique breakdowns
and evaluations. In kenpo we try to break things down, determine
how and why they work and modify or rearrange for different
applications. I find myself doing that (whether I want to or not)
with jiu-jitsu techniques.

Drunken Badger (Ha! Ha! Ha!) that sounds scary

[Gazelle]

Originally Posted by bamboo

Actually Gazelle, I think a few people here have at least had some practice in a few of the forms of kenpo out there. I'm assuming your speaking of japanese kenpo dog or do you include the american derivation as well?

-bamboo

Bamboo, i never implied that no one had. I recalled you saying before that you had in some topic before, at least, i just said, 'if no one pops up', the 'pops up', being the key phrase, there. Sorry for confusion.

That be one weird wink!