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03-26-2004, 12:26 AM
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i came across this on a bruce lee site,but it seems to me that this guy s quite ignorant on what jkd was meant to be and such,what do you guys think? http://www.bruceleedivinewind.com/jkd.html

also when someone asks how to learn jkd he adds:

"I don't know if you have any martial arts experience but the best way to start out is to do a couple of years of boxing, kickboxing and ju jitsu which are the best forms of street fighting and the most effective in whooping some serious ass, after the 2 years you'd have the feel for it and could learn other stuff and mix it a bit and see what works best for you."
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That guy is idiot.
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03-26-2004, 02:38 AM
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Great Article, I just wished he could have articulated better. The pictures were obviously there to joke what JKD is now. JKD, today, HAS become a style, even though it was never meant to become a style. This guy is pretty much right on, or at least very close, IMO. If you think JKD, by Bruce Lee, was meant to be a style taught in a rigid manner, you are WRONG. That is all this guy is trying to say. He does a good job explaining FORMLESS several times. This is just my opinion, I am sure many people will disagree with me.
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the problem i have is that he bashes jkd schools saying that you can't teach someone it,which is wrong- the purpose of jkd is to be combat effective by what YOU feel works best for you,not to have literally no technique like he seems to describe,you know? and for someone with no ma experience to make such claims is ridiculous,especially seeing as how jkd teach valuable self defense techniques anyway,why bash them?
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03-27-2004, 02:46 AM
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Bruce is still causing a fuss after all these years. What the guy wrote was correct in the definition of FORMLESS. But, to know fighting be it formless or not, you must have technique. Even if you teach yourself how to throw a punch, that punch takes form when you throw it. If you study 10 martial arts, and pick and choose what works for you, it still takes form when you use it. It then becomes your style. Now, I dont know anywhere near what Bruce Lee did about fighting arts, nor am I a philosopher. But instead of 'Formless' I think it should be 'LIMITLESS' form or 'INFINITE FORM'. Just my opinion.
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03-27-2004, 02:51 AM
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Check out this article; I really like it: http://www.chusaulei.com/martial/art...brucelee1.html. It gives a great perspective on JKD and Bruce from someone who knew him really well.
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talk about a nitpicker. i see jeet kune do as a philosophy. bruce's philosophy was taught to dan inosanto and from there inosanto spread it. i think thats wuts great about it. you CAN learn jeet kune do. you learn the techniques which were compiled and in turn adopt wut works for you. "reject what is useless."
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03-28-2004, 11:57 AM
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hi all new here

ive been doing jkd for a wile now and i train in manchester, england. (if any one knows were that is )

i know what the chap was saying about being in other arts before hand, but you dont need it!

i think that jkd in my opinion is perhaps one of the best styles as it has all angles covered. a complete art. i love the philipino side to it to the panatukan. i just love it. and its help me a few times to adapt to situations that just change!

so were do you all train? how long have you been doing it?
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Here is a quote from an article written by Tim Tackett. He was one of the original people who were part of the "backyard" JKD class dan inosanto opened up after Bruce Lee closed his chinatown school to make films in hong kong. I think that it captures spirit of JFJKD and Lee's teachings:

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Bruce Lee has been quoted as saying that in JKD you must constantly study all other martial arts. The main question is just what did he mean by study? The Encarta World English Dictionary defines study as, "to learn about a particular subject by reading and researching". Bruce Lee had an immense library full of martial arts books. He had most of the books ever written on western fencing. As far as I know he never took western fencing lessons. He never became a western fencing teacher. His genius was that he could draw out the essence of western fencing and then adapt its theories and principles to his way of combat. From fencing Bruce adopted and adapted the 5 ways of attack and broken rhythm among other things.

The JFJKD Wednesday Night Group believes that you should become familiar with as many martial arts as possible. At the very least you should understand and have an answer for their delivery systems. We agree with Krisnamurti who said, "Self knowledge is a continuous process". That's why our group has an open door policy. Any martial artist from any style or system is more than welcome to visit us and share his or her knowledge. The only thing we know for sure is that we don?t know everything.

What we want our students to do is to be able to do the core curriculum of Jun Fan Jeet Kune Do, make it his or her own, then adapt, evolve, and add what is their own. That will be their JKD. But we also feel that they shouldn't add what goes against the basic principles of JKD and call it Jeet Kune Do. Remember that any architectural principle is based on a strong foundation. Let the core curriculum be your guide to the building of your foundation and let the house you build on top of it be your own.
The full article can be found here:

http://www.jkdwednite.com/Tim.htm
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03-28-2004, 06:12 PM
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welcome to FA dude. i live in the states and i study in irvine, california. i love jkd. its awesome.
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