[Fa Jing]

Just thought i'd throw this in. Everyone has condridictions, everyones a hypocritic. Weither or not they admit it or not is the difference between honesty(truth) and deception(untruth) of ones self. Honestly expressing yourself is the key. Weither the expression is hypocriticaly of what your originally speaking on or not doesnt matter. Controdictions(hypocriticism) is apart of the growth of a human as truth is reviled the falsehoods left behind will be what we call controdictions, i call growth from puberity to maturity in MA. I have come to a point in MA formal training where i have nothing left i feel to learn from them(this is for fighting and self defense purposes, now id love to go to China or somewhere to train in the old ways but not for self defense or fighting) Ive found truth in religion and mylife im finding it in the martial arts. Seems like all the instructors ive seen on TV and in person want a mimic of themselves. They dont want you to do the techniques in a confortable manner, they want it done text book fashion. I dont see the probably in doing a "untext book" technique if it is effective for the purpose your using it for. Why would you want to put yourself in a position you dont feel comfortable with from the get go, apply the technique, and hope that someday with enough repetition, you'll be comfortable. Why not just make a slight variation and do it "your way" the most comfortable yet efficient way you can? Hope this makes sense. I dont mean to offend anyone. You all have some thoughts?

"unless human being have 3 arms and 4 legs we will have a different style of fighting."-Bruce Lee


remember "le style, c'est l'homme" (the style is the man) the man makes the style, the style doesnt make the man.

[bamboo]

Katsu,

Nice post, it seems like yor really doing some thinking about your training. I have a few thoughts about what you have written. First off though, if you mean JKD I have no clue, what I have written is based on "formal training" in martial arts.

I have come to a point in MA formal training where i have nothing left i feel to learn from them(this is for fighting and self defense purposes

Find a new teacher, there is always something to learn. Martial artists change teachers because their needs change over time, it is possible to outgrow a teacher and have to find a new one. You can also start teaching a little, newbies are in my opinion fantastic teachers. Someone who knows nothing can teach you alot about yourself.

now id love to go to China or somewhere to train in the old ways

You may be dissapointed by what you find. The old ways were born out of a need for combat, something that is no longer applicable.

Seems like all the instructors ive seen on TV and in person want a mimic of themselves. They dont want you to do the techniques in a confortable manner, they want it done text book fashion. I dont see the probably in doing a "untext book" technique if it is effective for the purpose your using it for. Why would you want to put yourself in a position you dont feel comfortable with from the get go, apply the technique, and hope that someday with enough repetition, you'll be comfortable.

Again, its the teacher and I would dare say a question of ego. From the start, (as I am quite sure you understand but for the benefit of others ) there is a reason for the textbook manner.
I tell the guys that bitch about our beginning stance that they are free to study something else. Once you can walk, then learn to run, hop, skip and jump. Again, since youve likely been studying for quite some time, these does not apply to you but it may to others that are starting out. If your not doing what is required by the art but rather your own comfortable variation, are you still learning the art?

I look at it as a basic catalogue of techniques, I am free to pick and choose what to use and when to use it, its just really nice to have several things to choose from.

Anyway, just some thoughts.

cheers,

bamboo

[Fa Jing]

Originally Posted by bamboo

I look at it as a basic catalogue of techniques, I am free to pick and choose what to use and when to use it, its just really nice to have several things to choose from.

Excellent Point!. I think that is the best argument for training in more than one art i have ever heard.

[bamboo]

Excellent Point!. I think that is the best argument for training in more than one art i have ever heard.

Or one complete art.

[zefff]

or one complete mind....