[dscott]

What's your take? I've got to admit....I don't follow boxing but this is all I've been seeing/hearing about for the last couple weeks. Is De La Hoya past his prime? I'm hearing that he has no chance.

[Triple T]

My money's on Mike Tyson flipping out, jumping in the ring and eating both of them.

[The BadBoy]

Mayweather in the late rounds if not by JD

[Kyorgi]

PBF has already lost to JLC, someone needs to put the -1 on his record. PBF's power doesn't carry to 154...or 147 for that matter. ODLH by Knockout in mid to late rounds.

[Kyorgi]

If I hadn't pressed the fight, there would be no fight- ODLH

[nbotary]

I can't believe this fight was called by decision. I heard a lot of talk afterwards that it wasn't very impressive, but that De La Hoya looked good and dominated most of the fight. I don't know, I didn't see it and I didn't see any footage. I also heard that after the fight, Mayweather Sr. said that the fight could've been better and he gave the fight to De La Hoya. That alone tells me that it was a piss poor fight topped off by piss poor judging.

I think boxing overall is going the way of the dinosaur. UFC seems to be the sport du jour. The only thing that really pisses me off about it is that they label it "Mixed Martial Arts" when in reality it's boxing, mixed with the trendy "Brazilian Ju-Jitsu" and some kickboxing.

[Kyorgi]

Mayweather Sr. is probably just saying that because he wants a job. Floyd vs Shane Mosley has to happen NOW.

[Kyorgi]

Originally Posted by nbotary

The only thing that really pisses me off about it is that they label it "Mixed Martial Arts" when in reality it's boxing, mixed with the trendy "Brazilian Ju-Jitsu" and some kickboxing.

This makes no sense to me...its a mix of different martial arts, hence the name "mixed martial arts" is fitting. There are plenty more martial arts involved besides boxing, kickboxing and bjj.

[Triple T]

Originally Posted by Kyorgi

This makes no sense to me...its a mix of different martial arts, hence the name "mixed martial arts" is fitting. There are plenty more martial arts involved besides boxing, kickboxing and bjj.

I think the argument was that a specific blend of only a few styles should be given a more specific name.

While you are correct that there may be the occassional wrestling, sambo, muay thai, and even judo student in the promotions, the differences between styles are minimal and the selection is still sparse compared to what is available in the world for study. So, such a broad title as "mixed martial arts" should still seem inaccurate to people like Nick, who study arts that are not only unrepresented in the sportfighting world, but are actually looked at with disdain because they don't compete.

This should be seen as another reason to mistrust the validity of sport fighting promotions as a means of gauging some notion of objective value in the martial arts.

[The BadBoy]

The term Mix Martial Arts came into play when you had a style versus style approach. Over the years the styles people practised were minimised to Judo/Wrestling/Boxing/MuayThai/BJJ because these were the styles that had the functionality to work. These are the dominant styles in MMA competition because people realise the other styles are more or less bullshit when it comes ot functionality.