[Umy]

Ill have to agree with dscott, although Tyson was a punk at times he got a lot of greif from everywhere, before his buster douglas fight he was having a lot of problems ( but buster beat him fair and square that night).

As for holyfields headbutting look at our friend Hashim Rahman after a Holyfield headbutt:



Mike said the referee wasnt doing anything so he went back to his old street ways and bit him

[setsu nin to]

nice to see you back Umy!!!

[dscott]

I forget.......did Holyfield get DQ'd for that headbutt to Rahman?

[Umy]

setsu - thanks bro, nice to be here, ill try and post whenever i can

dscott - nope he didnt, he won the fight.

I cant remember exactly but i think they go to the score cards incase of an accidental headbutt and holyfield was winning on the cards so there ya go

[cross]

So what if Holyfield constantly headed butted Tyson. If you are a knock out artist, as was/is Tyson, you find a way to knock him out. By the way, Holyfield was winning that fight, and Mike did not know how to answer. In the two fights with Evander, I think Mike landed one crushing combination, and had he known that was a crushing combo.. he may have finished off Holyfield, the combo was a left hook to the body and head of Holyfield. Anyway, my point is when Tyson fought someone who was not afraid of him (Douglass, Holyfield, Lewis, and (Tucker even though Tyson won, it went the distance ) he was either in for a long fight or got knocked out. In his prime and when focussed I thing Mike could have knocked all of those dudes out, but he lacked the desire or the will to do it.

[dscott]

Originally Posted by cross

So what if Holyfield constantly headed butted Tyson. If you are a knock out artist, as was/is Tyson, you find a way to knock him out.

What are you talking about????? So what you're saying is if someone's losing, cheat. That's very insightful. Remind me never to fight with you.