[mjeon]

Ha,, It's quite funny that mostly everyone thinks that "just 'cause" Japan and China are more known than Korea to other people, EVERYTHING's copied from those guys.

I just wanted some opinions on this topic

I mean, Korea did get a lotta stuff from other neighbour countries, but they got loads from us too.

for example one of the three Kingdoms(in the old times) Baekjae, started trading with Japan, and they were the ones that spread mostly of Buddist stuff, making techniques and stuff.

I Think it's mainly because Korea wasn't really a big country till now, so, I mean a lotta people think "WhAT Korean? probably copied that from Japan or China".

It is true that not much of any people know about 'the history' of Korea, but not everyone.

but you wouldn't look at a Karate guy doing some weird Karate moves and go, "That's sOME shit martial art!!!!" would you?

I read a postaying that Hwarang's were probably copycats just having bumsex.thatWasquite anNoYING.

To those: don't bother talking Plz>??? Talk about how good your country is then, stealing everything from other countries, and that's true.
Learn some stuff and then talk.


I just get agggggressive quickly, sorry about that.
Cheers!

[mjeon]

If you see Koreans were and are quite similar to Romans. They liked eating for a long time, (sitting down and lying on the side), ate fish more than meat,

and they had the Only type of crown in the whole of Asia from the King's valley(loads of huge tombs) veryveryvary similar to the ones founded in greece and rome. I also saw a statue of buddha in the Vatican city, with no head and no hands(looked so much like the statue back when i was in Korea) And at Suk-gul-am, the(dugged a hole on a side of a mountain) place with the perfect angle, and construction , that even the moist air couldn't damage any of the statues, had a Heraculus statue(quite similar but with Korean styles, holding a wooden bat? and the skin of a lion) at the back with one of the 12 gods protecting the place.

It meant that globalisation was already happening in the world and that means you can't say that who copied who.

Most of the Important Structures and statues, and belongings were all~
destroyed by the Japanese when they came in the 1900's. Also the Chinese changed the name of the huge rock with some of the history of Korea to an ancient chinese thing.(as you know part of China was Korea)
Also Japanese taking lumps of Korean stuff and keeping them and giviing them to their descendents to look after something that they don't even know.


and I also realised when I went to Rome it was the same for people all pushing for seats in the subway. I heard lots more from my guide there, hmmmmmm..... like there is high mountains along the peninsula with loads of rocks, and Korea too, with loads of trees.(the line of mountains are called tae-bek-san-mek) Both peninsulas, and quite a alot. Just that they had Ceaser makes the difference.(damn Ceaser!) Koreans just got invaded a lot.. but like they survived 13 massive attacks from Ghengiskans(i mean Mongolians) They also do share some blood with them.

Similar things doesn't mean that everything's from Japan or China.


I just wanted to add that

[Kyorgi]

Originally Posted by mjeon

Ha,, It's quite funny that mostly everyone thinks that "just 'cause" Japan and China are more known than Korea to other people, EVERYTHING's copied from those guys.

I just wanted some opinions on this topic

I mean, Korea did get a lotta stuff from other neighbour countries, but they got loads from us too.

for example one of the three Kingdoms(in the old times) Baekjae, started trading with Japan, and they were the ones that spread mostly of Buddist stuff, making techniques and stuff.

I Think it's mainly because Korea wasn't really a big country till now, so, I mean a lotta people think "WhAT Korean? probably copied that from Japan or China".

It is true that not much of any people know about 'the history' of Korea, but not everyone.

but you wouldn't look at a Karate guy doing some weird Karate moves and go, "That's sOME shit martial art!!!!" would you?

I read a postaying that Hwarang's were probably copycats just having bumsex.thatWasquite anNoYING.

To those: don't bother talking Plz>??? Talk about how good your country is then, stealing everything from other countries, and that's true.
Learn some stuff and then talk.


I just get agggggressive quickly, sorry about that.
Cheers!

What do you mean by "That Buddhist stuff"?

If you mean Buddhism...it originated in India. So I'm going to go out on a limb and say to get to Korea, it had to pass through China. Korean's didn't teach Chinese buddhism.

As far as looking at Karate moves and calling it a shit martial art. A lot of people would look at it and call it a shit martial art. Korean MA's aren't the only ones getting bashed these day, dozen's of TMA's feel the same heat.

One more thing.

Who the hell cares?

[mjeon]

Originally Posted by Kyorgi

What do you mean by "That Buddhist stuff"?

If you mean Buddhism...it originated in India. So I'm going to go out on a limb and say to get to Korea, it had to pass through China. Korean's didn't teach Chinese buddhism.

As far as looking at Karate moves and calling it a shit martial art. A lot of people would look at it and call it a shit martial art. Korean MA's aren't the only ones getting bashed these day, dozen's of TMA's feel the same heat.

One more thing.

Who the hell cares?

I did know that Buddhism came from India, but I didn't say that Koreans taught it to the Chinese. I said they did bring quite Buddhism to Japan across.

well I actually do care.
Feeling kinda better..that the fact its not only TKD; but still I kinda feel like what I said. Facts are true, but the OPINION's my opinion. I would like to hear what other people think about.

and I'm not just talking about MA's, it's about the subject on the top.
I do quite feel that a lot at other websites, and I couldn't see much forums cursing Japanese or Chinese as much as Koreans. That's what I felt. What do you think?

[setsu nin to]

Do I smell fish?

[mjeon]

Originally Posted by setsu nin to

Do I smell fish?

I know I'm being a bit too thinghy, but that really was what I felt, even know. see, Nobody cares, does anybody?

I just see loads of replies from other forums with real 'crappy' things from webs with all different answeres to post.

[bamboo]

Ha,, It's quite funny that mostly everyone thinks that "just 'cause" Japan and China are more known than Korea to other people, EVERYTHING's copied from those guys.

An opening statement implying what we already think is bound to suffer from lack of response.

I also believe that most here are well past silly notions of national superiourity in MA's.

[Haas]

ok so whats the question ?? is it a question at all or just a statement ? and why are we talking about anything else other then a korean MA on the Korean MA section ?

[WushuPadawan001]

Geography Lesson: Asia goes India, China, Korea, Japan.

History Lesson: The Silk road carried what was, at the time, culturally/technologically significant to China from Western territories/civilizations.

Fact: China and Japan were military powers in Asia, far outweighing Korea.

Regarding Martial Arts: Korea is connected to one of China?s northern most borders. Northern China is home to martial arts which are stylistic of kicking techniques. Logically one can assume that Tae Kwon Do evolved from a Chinese martial arts system.

The Question: Did Korea ?Copy? some things from China or Japan? No more than any other culture has from another ? see the history of Greece and Rome.

What it?s all called: Cultural Exchange.

[Bloodybirds]

Although I am a practitioner of Chinese martial arts, I have long admired true Korean arts of tae kwon do, hapkido, etc. For a long time I cared that the historically correct thing to say was China invented the art, India invented the philosophy, and the other Asian tigers assimilated or adopted both for their own uses based upon terrain, people's skills, military philosophies, sword techniques, etc. For instance, I have never heard a dissertation of Korean sword technique, though I am sure there is one since most of the other Asian countries have either sword and/or knife traditions. Is there a particular Korean sword tradition similar to the Chinese gim, darn dao, Japanese katana or kendo practice, or Indonesian snake sword, or Filipino espada y espada, etc. What are specific Korean weapons or were they adapted? Interestingly, there is great parallel between the chin na in Chinese locks re Ying jow (eagle claw), Japanese aikido, and Korean hapkido....similar roots?

One of my martial fascinations is studying the variable influences that cause different development of weapons,etc. in proximate countries? What were the specific factors that led to dispersal of karate, kung fu, tae kwon do, etc. that caused such disparities as time marched on?

Similar to a previous discussion I evoked earlier about European sword technique/development vs. Asian vs. African? Very interesting!! Besides language,I believe a country's martial techniques/skills reflect both the cultural and topographical influence of the land they come from.