[setsu nin to]

Hi peipei! Could you ask Master Yuan is he would like to join to my band as singer? Our old singer (one sitting down) went to practice BJJ under 1500 years old BJJ master Chuck in Okinawa.

[Bloodybirds]

Thank you Setsu...my feeling, and my classmates NB and Wushu will tell you, we all work and train very hard under very legit and good masters over many years of pain and personal sacrifice to become maybe a tenth of what our masters are. For someone to claim legitamacy without using the standards of it (ability to trace lineage, not contradict oneself during assertions or arguments, and not being mysterious/evasive when someone asks) is setting himself up for a fall on this site. Also, as all of us know, in the Chinese arts it is pro forma that one has the ability to trace one's lineage back at least 3 generations and usually, if legit, other masters have heard of yours, whether you are domiciled in North America, China, Hong Kong, etc. Also, just one other comment...did you notice that so far, whether it was my brother calling out a student of Master The from Shaolin Do or me with PeiPei, we have yet to have a response. Should be interesting. Hope everyone is having a great weekend.

[peipei]

The website is correct. What should be more clear is that Zhong Yun Long is Master Yuan's shifu. They're both registered at Zi Xiao temple in Wudang.

For basic info in the Wudang sect, which includes the Sanfeng sect: http://www.eng.taoism.org.hk/general...s/pg1-3-25.asp

[WushuPadawan001]

Ok, so I finally took the time to watch the videos that are provided on the website.
From what I can tell I?d say that we are giving peipei and his master a bit too much guff. The master has excellent stance work, balance and hang-time, as well as great weapon control. His speed seems to be quite good too (wont say anything about power, I couldn?t really tell just from watching the video).

Maybe this master is not a legitimate Wudang master, maybe he?s just an excellent Wushu practicioner, but at the very least he is a skilled martial artist who deserves some amount of respect.

[BLACK PANTA]

Originally Posted by WushuPadawan001

Ok, so I finally took the time to watch the videos that are provided on the website.
From what I can tell I?d say that we are giving peipei and his master a bit too much guff. The master has excellent stance work, balance and hang-time, as well as great weapon control. His speed seems to be quite good too (wont say anything about power, I couldn?t really tell just from watching the video).

Maybe this master is not a legitimate Wudang master, maybe he?s just an excellent Wushu practicioner, but at the very least he is a skilled martial artist who deserves some amount of respect.

wow, wushu, have you reached such a rank that you can critique another person's form, stances etc etc. If so you should change your name to WushuMassa, or I like this on MushuWushuSashiMassa.

I wanted to tell y'all earlier that y'all would look pretty red if/when he came back with some serious credentials. I didn't look at the site he provided so I won't coment of his credentials. I just ragged on him cuz he couldn't take a smirk comment by my boy Hengest.

[Gazelle]

Anyone of any rank can critique something, how well and accurate they fo it is another question. Not that i'm ganging up on you Wushu, for all i know you are a very high grade, i have heard already that you are good, i'm just simply stating a fact.

[Bloodybirds]

Wushu is currently at an intermediate rank and his forms are pretty good. As far as Peipei and his master, all I have requested is some lineage and some more detail on the school's background. Traditionally, one test of one's legitamacy is to be able to trace lineage in the Chinese martial arts. It is one trait that sets us apart but, unfortunately, sometimes does not allow us as an art to compete with tae kwon do, karate, etc. as a popular art because we become infatuated with everyone's true training, etc. I concur with those that say we may be a little harsh on Peipei but I have looked at the videos as well. And, since I have alot more background in both training and competing than Wushu, I have observed that this master does have significant physical skill and his forms are very decent. However, if he is on the mainland these days, and was born in 1971 and started training in 1978 (the same year I did), then this was shortly after the Cultural revolution ended in 1976 after an 8 year reign. Most traditional Shaolin, Wudang, etc. artists had to go underground, especially the masters. If that is true, then my question to Peipei would be how his master found a true master of traditional Wudang in this atmosphere and was able to train without punishment or discovery from the Chinese government? His skills do look more wushu than traditional (note the position of feet in his stances, his punching relative to his body, etc. that reflect more of a wushu type background than traditional kung fu).

It is sad that some great teachers from the 60s and 70s were either lost, punished, or "re-educated" during this time and the great knowledge that either migrated to Hong Kong, Taiwan, or North America during this time. Madame Wong Ju Rong, who recently passed away and whose father is generally recognized as the greatest mainland martial artist of the 20th century and a national treasure, had to adjust some of her teaching/training during this time period with her husband Dr. Cheng De Wu in order to preserve their well being and that of their three daughters. Soooo....this master claims to know the true internal Wu Dang and Shaolin at the same time all of this was occuring in the mainland. (As an aside, my Ying Jow master, Leung Shum, returned to China in the mid-80s to seek out traditional eagle claw vs. wushu eagle, and he could only find one old man who did not practice anymore....the rest had moved to Hong Kong, the US, or stopped training).

Though Wushu is still young in his art (little over 5 years) he has trained with both Jeff Bolt (the senior of Dr. Yang Jwing Ming), and Madame Wong and her daughter here in Houston before she died. Thus, his length of service is relatively short compared to some of us but his pedigree is beyond reproach.

[WushuPadawan001]

[nbotary]

Originally Posted by WushuPadawan001

Just remember to not let that go to your head...

[Bloodybirds]

NB...he will not, because as we all know we have some good ole ego busters here in Houston. Even at the high level....LOL!!!!