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04-01-2004, 09:43 AM
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Thaddru is not my teacher, we are the same rank and have the same teacher. As to his comment of how some people would say SD is similar to karate or TKD, I will let him explain what he meant.

Which weapons are you referring to exactly? I believe you will pick sais as one. I am currently trying to find the article on Kungfumagazine.com that describes the Chinese sai. It's form was similar to the modern version however along its length the blade was segmented like the tail of a scorpion. On a recent trip to China, a SD group visited Quanzhou Shaolin Temple and took this pic of one of their weapons racks. Notice what is on the rack:

Here is a pic of some excavated weapons found at the newly discovered southern Shaolin temple. Notice the weapon third from the left.

Is this sufficient for the sais or are you going to make me go through pages and pages in order to find the write up on Chinese Sais on kungfumagazine.com?
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Thaddru is not my teacher
Sorry well than he is jademonkeystudent teacher than.

Well you realy could finde some better photos.
In my opinion you (as someone who practice shaolin) should know chinese term for what you call Chinese Sai.
Well Gen (one of the terms used for "Chinese Sai") was diferent than todays Sai. But its truth Sai come from China. I dont know any problem with that.

Could you tell me how long are tese stick on the photo. (two short sticks)?

Well I will finde that about weapons...

Also it was not just Thraddu who noticed it...
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I can not tell you how long the sticks are in the photo without a reference to go by. They look to be almost the same size of the sais. They also appear to be connected at the top .. could this be a 2 section staff .. Nunchaku, if you will have it?

The Chinese version we have used in class has one stick around the same size of a contemporary nunchaku, but the other stick is shorter. It prevents the stick from racking your knuckles in one of the two man fighting sets we have.

Here is some pics of an antique set: http://www.chinesearms.com/chinesear.../zhangbian.htm
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http://www.shaolinchowka.com/shaolin...rms/index.html

Here is an excellent site for chinese weapons names (not sure of the dialect though). Just move the cursor on the weapons rack and get the names you are looking for.

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Nice site bamboo. Does anyone know where I can find one of these "horizontal top bench?" I have always called them a Chinese bench.
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Could this be the bench you want? http://www.dragonslist.com/weapons/?id=11

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**Ok, I have one question.
Your friend and teacher (Thraddu) post how many people say that Shaolin Do is similar to Karate and TKD. Well in my opinion Shaolin Kung Fu and Karate/TKD are not so similar so that someone would replace them. Also why are there some weapons that were not used in Shaolin?**

well youre right that shaolin is far different from karate or TKD, here is the context that statement was made in.

arjun: "shaolin-do looks like modern wushu."

thaddru: "ive never heard that one before, most or our detractors say we look like karate or TKD."

i have seen some students of shaolin-do do our stuff and it looked like karate but thats only because they dont train hard enough or didnt listen when they were told how to do it. the meecer and thaddfu can elaborate on this. shaolin-do forms are no different that traditional shaolin forms if they are done like master sin teaches them but, a few people just dont get it so it ends up looking strange.
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That bench is similar .. but the ones I need have the 'feet' of the bench as 4 legs .. and not two short boards. That one may be usable though.
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themeecer wants one of these,

http://search.ebay.com/search/search...ng+fu+bench%22
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04-01-2004, 06:37 PM
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Perfect MK!!!!!!! That one is sold though. 8( Don't think I want to use an antique one either. It will take a good beating with a broad sword and ruin its finish.
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