[Gong||Jau]

I'm not sure I quite understand what you're asking, but...

1. Hold your elbow about a fist's width from your torso

2. Make a vertical fist and hold it against your sternum

3. Punch straight out, keeping your elbow tucked in as close to your side as you can without collapsing the one fist's distance (this is the hard part to describe)

4. Don't extend your arm far enough where you have to push your elbow out

Hopefully if you've seen one done before this should make some sense, if not ask me and I'll clarify (or someone else will). Key points: stay relaxed, especially your shoulders, and imagine a tube extending from your chest into the chest of someone in front of you, and keep your hand inside it.

If you find a picture of someone doing one, it would probably help you immensely, since you'd be able to understand what I mean a lot better.

[zefff]

Also push your pelvis forward and shoulders down (I have a slight curve or hunch in my back) and do not withdraw the fist before the punch - It only accelerates forward from where ever it may be. Hit through the target and retract. Do not leave the punch out there as if you are posing for a picture like a lot of people do. Analyse your verticle fist and ensure your bones from elbow to knuckles are in alignment when you strike. Hit with three bottom knuckles. Have a very tight fist on contact, but before.....then you can start using the body, turning in stance, advancing etc.

go here:

http://www.martialartinstitute.com/Index.htm

and check out the video clips etc.

[lakan_sampu]

seems like it rolls for me. How does power generate in that process?

[Fa Jing]

what do you mean exactly? how does moving enable you to generate power? The chick in that picture the one with the long hair what is she doing? Looks like a really high bong sao, looks to me like a kau sao.

[zefff]

li_siao_lung -

dont know what you mean by 'rolls'??? And as for how is power generated, well in straight punching it should come from every joint doing adding its own bit. Wrist, elbow and back. No huge shoulder input. When you punch with turning then spinal column, waist and the legs come to add there bit too. It is about total body unity, as in any striking art.

Fa Jing -

"The chick in that picture the one with the long hair what is she doing? Looks like a really high bong sao, looks to me like a kau sao."

She is performing pun sau. She is rolling with a bong sau and fuk sau hand positions. Kau sau is where you come across the centreline with both hands in this position:

[Gong||Jau]

Fa Jing: put one hand in a tan sao, and the other palm down raised a little bit above the other, so the fingertips point out in lines that would cross a little ways out. Now fuk sau with the raised hand as you roll the tan arm into a bong. Roll back. Do that with a partner and it's pun sau. Add in attacks and defense and it's chi sau.

[zefff]

I think he knows how to roll already cos he explained it earlier. TBH I think Fa Jing may have confused Kau sau with Kwon (?) Sau. The manouver where tan sau and bong sau are thrust out from the centre simultaneously. But still the girls werent doing that anyway.

I have a question:

can we use Wing Chun on the ground?

[Gong||Jau]

Of course. You can use Wing Chun on the ground and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu standing (although a triangle might be kind of hard ). You should be able to do just about all of the handwork from mount, and the best part is your opponent is stuck at close range.

[zefff]

Whats the highest strategy in use of Wing Chun?

Unseen, direct, rapid striking along the centre is the simplest. But is it the best method?

[Fa Jing]

i mean Kal (sp?thats how its pronounced) sao, its a bong sao but instead of a block its more of a sweeping type of clearing motion, if i can find some pics ill post them. We dont use the term pun sao i dont think maybe i just havent learned it yet, we primarly use chi sao and don chi sao.