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10-12-2005, 05:53 PM
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Dont ruin this thread please, lets keep it on topic.

How do you make your lap sau work? I have great trouble making it work under pressure in sparring. How can we make lap sau really work?
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""How do you make your lap sau work? I have great trouble making it work under pressure in sparring. How can we make lap sau really work?""

Personally, I think the most important thing is to do a lot of forms, and the two-man drills of Ving Tsun. Once the lop sau is in your arms, it'll come out when it needs to. My experience is that trying to force a technique into a situation usually results in me being a whole lot less relaxed, and my body not doing what it knows it should.

Only my two cents, though. Train hard.
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10-16-2005, 04:09 PM
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but what makes a lap sau harder to work than a gum sau? If its too hard to pull off, why bother?
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Like any technique practice makes perfect. Do it until you get it right.
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Thanks but you didnt answer my questions.
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I think the point is that you can't answer the question with words. It's just a question of training lop sao, and accepting that it will come out when it's right for it to come out. If it never comes out for you, that's fine. But also something I like to think about is that the drills teach me more than just a "move" or specific technique; it build sensitivity and relaxation, and helps me to condition my body. So even if I don't know a specific "application" of a drill, I'm still going to train that drill because of the other benefits it gives me.
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Well I wanted to steer the conversation towards questioning the use of WC techniques that are considered simple but are actually quite complex...lap sau is one of them IMHO. In a drill we can chill out and relax and do almost anything we feel but out of the drill when the opponent is striving, I find certain techniques are used less or never. This may be fine but I want to know why these moves are used less and maybe figure a way to bring them back into use with some innovation after insight. I thought we could discuss more avant-garde applications with words here as long as we all understand the basic mechanics of the techniques. Just training harder, without any thought for what you are doing cant go on forever. Ahh well.

P.S. How can a drill condition you?...and if you dont know why you are doing something you should ask straightaway.
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shit man it went quiet round here eh?
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11-03-2005, 08:13 AM
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shit man its STILL quiet around here!

If this Lap sau never comes out, why should I bother to continue training it? Isnt that a waste of time?
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