[Blade]

There is a long form called the Tiger in my school.
It is divided into two parts, Static Tiger and Tiger In Motion.
The first is just wrist and elbow movement, the second includes standard pivioting.
Throught the whole form your suposed to be relaxed with exception to your fists and forearms which are flexed as hard as they can be and the pressure needs to increase every motion you make making the form a very painfull excercise, when you are done you cant open your fist right away.
there is extreme tiger in wingchun but not many see it.
there is also snake & crane and same for Dragon and Leopard although i dont know where their specific influence is..

[The BadBoy]

hey guys, how do the elements come into the Five animal systems?

[TigerPaw]

http://www.fuhok.com/Hung%20Gar%20Tr...s-elements.htm

[The BadBoy]

So are the five element styles seperate from the five animal styles?

[TigerPaw]

Not in Hung Gar.. My Dai Sigung (Teachers... Teachers.. Teacher. If there's some misstakes in the wannabe-cantonese spelling. -_-) showed us at a seminar that people used to say; "But that's not an element, That's a tiger technique, I can see it.." He explained and showed us that the nature of fire burns within the tiger, Thus there's always a little fire in tiger techniques, and a little tiger in the fire techniques, Because they.. I dont know the word he used.. They're like one, they're entwined? encircled? >_<

Sorry, I hereby call upon the holy sanctity of Linguistic problems.


Although I believe that as in Such styles as Tai-chi, Being only Taoist, They utilize only the five elements. The five elements of Tao..

Many Shaolin systems, as I've seen it, Is a hybrid between Taoism and Buddhism. The Ch'an Sect and all that...

[Wilhelm von Wankenstein]

There are Five Element forms in Shaolin family styles alongside of the Five Animals, but the Five Animals do indeed have Elemental analogues.

For instance, Dragon-style is I think associated with the Metal element, with a lot of precise, languid, arcing/chopping/shearing type movements, while the Snake is associated with Wood, with its linear, in-out, all-in-one-movement, controlling-the-centre characteristics. The Crane, with its soft, evasive characteristics should be Water-analogous. As for the other two, it took me a bit of thinking and research to come up with a suitable answer, but I think I have it.

Tiger should be Earth-analogous, with its firm, rooted stances and constant application of force and unyielding, crowding-in characteristics to force an opponent off balance and break his root.

Leopard, on the other hand, is explosive, violent and unpredictable - quite Fire-
analogous, IMHO.

Of course, this is all my own interpretation as I've never heard official opinion on this one.

[TigerPaw]

I believe it would wary a bit on the different philosophies and uses of the different animal in different shaolin styles.

But If I'm not misstaken, Hung Gar unisons the Elements and Animals on what they Build and cultivate, As the elements forges and creates\shapes. But the Animals is more the classification of how you use the techniques, tiger, crowding and pressing forward and down\above-all-over.


Tiger and Fire Cultivates Bone, Panther and Metal Cultivates.. Strenght was it? Cultivates is the golden word for us. But I'm sure each style have a slightly different interputation.. inturpu.. inter.. Could someone spell it for me?

[Gong||Jau]

Interpretation... welcome to the site, by the way, and interesting posts

[The BadBoy]

lol this dudes spelling is as bad as mine.

[8LimbsScientist]

Originally Posted by The BadBoy

lol this dudes spelling is as bad as mine.

lol, I bet he speaks better Swedish than you though