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02-01-2006, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by setsu nin to Learning martial arts without teacher/instructor is same smart as going to toilette without toilette paper. | yeah in both instances your fingers will get a pretty dirty.
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02-02-2006, 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by WushuPadawan001 btw, bamboo, I respectfully disagree with your statement that the spiny flashing stuff is crap. The monks were throwing staffs over their heads and around their backs for a reason. | Cos it gets more points in forms competition?
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02-02-2006, 08:58 AM
| LMAO @ Panta! I'll take the spot by the window.
Ive only done a tiny bit of 6 foot staff along with some 10 foot pole but I can see that spinning a staff might be good for keeping multiple oponents at bay.
Ive seen a lot of people who look awesome with a pole but I can see they couldnt really fight with it.
It should be practiced, striking on bags or against other poles though because when you hit something, the pole doesnt continue spinning in the same way and you have to be prepared for that or else you might lose your staff. Dont just strike the air, you wouldnt do that with punches and kicks would you? Definitely work on parries and strikes against the angles before doing anything else though.
Are there any sparring clips of staff with armour? I am interested now but no choreographed stuff though 
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02-02-2006, 11:21 AM
| Thanks guys. I have to admit i am a little worried about the bad habits! But i think i'll give it a go anyway, every now and again our old instructor comes back to the club i'm at and he does know how to use the staff, and even if he only omes down to the club once, i'll just have to be sure to ask him about some 'stuff' while he's there.
I'll do that search and see where it takes me.
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02-02-2006, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Gazelle Oh, i think i may have missed how to change the belt on the profile bit, and though i know that this request is going to cause some laughs for others, i wondered if any of you can tel me how exactly you change it? I obviously kept missing it. | You didn't miss anything. When your post count increases, your belt changes. That's all that it is.
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02-02-2006, 03:03 PM
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btw, bamboo, I respectfully disagree with your statement that the spiny flashing stuff is crap. The monks were throwing staffs over their heads and around their backs for a reason.
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I take no offense. I do infact have a question for you.... have you ever sparred using a staff?
The very second you move your staff over your head, I take your teeth. You swirl and spin, I take your teeth. Get the picture. Yes, I have worked with CMA men.
Now, take a minute and tell me what the flashy stuff does infact do interms of practical application, do not get smug, mention a monk and then leave it at that. It simply tells me that your doing nothing more than spewing "fact" without knowing why. Setsu, Panta,- Although I would normaly agree with the idea of not practicing without a teacher, I have recently come to the conclusion that this is not the "be all end all". Years of practice and practical experimentation can bring about realization. One good shake up to the system so to say. Quote: |
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| Zefff my friend, you sensed correct. I am back, and quite frankly feel like a new person.
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02-02-2006, 03:10 PM
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Are there any sparring clips of staff with armour? I am interested now but no choreographed stuff though
| I must have missed this. I will check if I still have clips of me doing this. I do have pics and will look for it. When I became sick of it all, I trashed most of the "memories", hopefully I still have a few around.
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02-02-2006, 04:11 PM
| Welcome back Bamboo. It's great to see that you're back.
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02-02-2006, 06:03 PM
| the twirly stuff is to make a small hurricane to mess up your opponent's hair.
seriously...you dont put your hand over your head to begin an attack. And there are many different bo forms Wushu and Bamboo.
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02-02-2006, 06:56 PM
| Lets be blunt here.
Are we discussing practical practice technique and form or basic "how tos" for a guy without a teacher?
I fucking know there are more forms than wushu out there, what do you take me for? C'mon Panta, don't feed me the lines my friend.
This is waste of mine and yours time.
A man asked about how to learn a staff on his own, I gave him a solid way to do it. You wanna go practice some complicated form seen on a dvd and apply it? Have fun. Practice the three basic things I listed and you will be able to actually use the staff.
Parry= deflecting defense and turns naturaly into a sweep or straight thrust. This of course is noticed as soon as people take the time to practice rather than jabber.
Thrust- this is a basic strike, a way of learning to advance and retreat and to keep center line. No center line with big stick = your pain. Its also a powerful strike.
Overhead strike- straight freaking power. Swing it like an axe, let it fall natuarlly and if you miss, well, your body will react in way that you'll discover through hard practice.
Like Zefff said- resistance is important for the training.
Gentlemen, wanna debate the efficacy of a 6 foot pole vs a standard jo? Lets start a new thread, i'm game.
And I still want to know what the monks used the twirly shit for.
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