[zefff]

Originally Posted by Tease T Tickle

When I am at the club, I do not dance, I shadowbox.

Theres always 'one' at the club.

[Tease T Tickle]

Originally Posted by zefff

Theres always 'one' at the club.

I am one.

[Stazzy]

Originally Posted by zefff

Theres always 'one' at the club.

Could be worse. Remember that one guy on Chapelle's show that always does the robot?

[Tease T Tickle]

Originally Posted by Stazzy

Could be worse. Remember that one guy on Chapelle's show that always does the robot?

And what is wrong with the robot?

[bamboo]

I find it humorous that this thread was started by an aikidoka and no mention was made about using weapon forms to inspire empty-hand forms

You are of course quite right Des. I guess for me it goes hand in hand that the two are but one in the same.

Excellent point.

-bamboo

[Bloodybirds]

I love sparring with my staff against another classmate and his staff in the school, the sound and timing help the empty hand. Also, I find myself taking my broom at home and playing with that all the time...the sweeping techniques are awesome...lol....a kung fu bro of mine recently made two great knives for me so I practice my 8 directional cutting at home,etc. I find the darn dao sword excellent for learning waist movement, foot movement, and extension of cutting, while I find the straight gim fun for learning subtle wrist movements and smaller circular manifestations.

I believe weapons training is essential to learn total extension of the technique for empty hand, short and long fa jing and power, etc. And, the knives and staff are very useful for street. The two short rods, either Chinese or Filipino, are great for picking up sticks in the street and defending oneself. All in all, weapons training is in some ways much more fun and rewarding. Besides, one should be able to run the form without the weapon and use the hidden techniques just as well performing it empty hand as with the weapon.

[NathanRahl]

Yep, your a 30 yearn practioner of sword huh, and an expert in Kung Fu as well, uh huh. Here is a newbie phoney folks, look,and be amazed. Someone who is still pedlaing the old commerical dojo crap about how weapons and empty hand are interconnected, and that you must learn one to gain true mastery of the other. This kind of crap has been pedaled since the early days of Ed Parker and his commercial machine.

"Get the students in, offer em what they want, but only after they pay you five years of tuition, yep yep folks" LOL

Pal, if your some 50 something guy, or 40 something, who expects us to believe from your naieve talk and childlike exurberence over staf, and your ignorant talk, that you are a 30 year Kenjutsu follower, as well as now a Kung fu guy who is also an expert on the Chinese Ken, or Gim sword, as well as the Shaun Dao, and the staff, now, I would say, good luck.

Your what I like to call a genral practioner newbie noob pin head. You think you have all the answrs, and to cinvince yourself of that, you've read a lot of books, memorized a lot of history, liekly for a class you sem to be taking, , and now think your some real bad ass. You sound like a beginner to me sport. Wanna pass yourself of as an expert, know a little more aboutn what your talking about. Of course you have memorized books like the five rings, but do you really understand it. Ok, let's find out.

Tell me, what is the proper sword grip? if you can answer that question, your in good stead.

When you move forward, exactly where doe's your weight shift from, toe to heel, or heel to toe?

What other movements are there then simply moving frowards or backwards? When you cut with the blade, what part doe's the arm play exactly? What other motions are there of the body?

What doe's it mean to ride your opponents sword in?

What is the cut that becomes a thurst, the thrust that becomes a cut?

Which fingers on the hand control the sword?

Where exactly should you be looking when in combat?

What areas of the palm will become calloused if one wields the sword in the proper way?

Could you tell me how the cut and the thrust are similiar, and how they are different?

These are fairly simple questions that someone who has studied for 30 years wll be abe to answer "boom" just like that. How do I know, because in my life I have met no more then a handful and half of true master who could answer them al correctly. Wich is said, but not surprising, seing as there are so many lazy, fat, out of shape folks out there who don't practice in the proper way, to gain the proper knwowledge.

Now if your the real deal, you will answer these questions. If your a fake, you will respond with a set of your own questions which are so vague and obscured that only you know the answers, something about history or some other nonsense that has ntohing to dow ith the sword. I have heard it all. "What is this step called" and "How doe's the tigerbecome the crane become the dove" and other such responses that are really just foolish dodges.

"Oh you can't answer my questions, so yours are not valid either, and your a fake, not me" These kind of responses are just simple ways o avoiding the truth, and sparing your ego the fact that your an amatuer and a fool, perhaps even a just plain idiot.

Oh, and theres a difference of course, my questions are simple, nothing clouded in some weird, foolishly named techniques, which are overly complicated, or died out hundreds of years agp. The language, as well as the intent, are uite clear and straight forward. I have made no attempt to overcomplicate my language, so as to make nit harder for you to answer, all in plain, simple, easy to understand, and answer, english. Easy to answer that is, if your the real deal. Only a real swordsman could answer all of these questions. Only someone who has practiced dilligently for a couple decades. Lt's find out if thats you sport. If ya come back at me with excuses, half answers, or vague generalisations about why you can not, or analysis of my questions, "Well it could mean this, or that, Cause in the Ming Dynasty" or some other nonsense like that, then your a rube, pretender, and not worth my time. Then you go on ignore kiddo.

I'm a pretty nice guy, but I have no tolerance for liars, pretenders, and stupid people who make clearly false claims, solely for the sake of their own egos. You can answer, or not, but if not, we all know your a fraud.

[NathanRahl]

Originally Posted by Bloodybirds

I love sparring with my staff against another classmate and his staff in the school, the sound and timing help the empty hand. Also, I find myself taking my broom at home and playing with that all the time...the sweeping techniques are awesome...lol....a kung fu bro of mine recently made two great knives for me so I practice my 8 directional cutting at home,etc. I find the darn dao sword excellent for learning waist movement, foot movement, and extension of cutting, while I find the straight gim fun for learning subtle wrist movements and smaller circular manifestations.

I believe weapons training is essential to learn total extension of the technique for empty hand, short and long fa jing and power, etc. And, the knives and staff are very useful for street. The two short rods, either Chinese or Filipino, are great for picking up sticks in the street and defending oneself. All in all, weapons training is in some ways much more fun and rewarding. Besides, one should be able to run the form without the weapon and use the hidden techniques just as well performing it empty hand as with the weapon.

Hey folks, he's speaking of hidden techniques. Wow, no, your not a rube newbie trying to covince us all your a 30 year, experienced practioner, no, not at all. LOL.

I have a few questions for you.

1. Why is whining such a big part of your "no style" style?
2. How can one so learned as you not know how to spell correctly?
3. Do you still smell shit or has your head been up your ass so long you're used to it?
4. How much training did it take for you to become an ignorant ass monkey?
5. Did the kids in school make fun of you for not knowing your daddy?

[Bloodybirds]

Never claimed to be a kenjitsu or any other Japanese sword practitioner so I will defer to others on that but neither are you a Chinese martial arts practitioner so stick to things you purport to know. I will ask for the 4th time today, pinhead, what is your lineage? Who is your master or masters? How long have you studied? Where? Why in China instead of Japan? I will put up my martial and street creds to yours anyday...I am now officially calling for you to either mention your legitimate heritage or cease on this site to be a factor....to the administrators of this forum, please enforce my request as everyone on here as either been requested to produce their props or be recognized as a troll.

Nathan, by the way, since you are so proud of your skills and Japaneseness, why do you use an American name? Just curious.

That is it. Oh, and the methodologies you mention on cutting are appropriate for some Japanese techniques but are NOT FOR Chinese gim, darn dao, kwon dao, double hook swords, doubel knives, etc. STOP TRYING TO DENIGRATE MY MASTERS AS YOU ARE NOW CHALLENGING MY LINEAGE AND HERITAGE...OH, ONE MORE THING....DUMBSHIT....THE WEAPON IS AN EXTENSION OF SELF, AND PART OF YOUR SOUL, AND EVEN MUSASHI KNEW AND BELIEVED THIS. EMPTY HAND AND WEAPON TECHNIQUE, INCLUDING SWORD, ARE MEASURES OF ONE'S EXTENSION OF FA JING, SILK REELING, SMALL CIRCLE AND LARGE CIRCLE AND OTHER LEGIT TECNIQUE OF CHINESE MARTIAL ARTS!! STICK TO WHAT YOU THINK YOU KNOW....AND STAY OUT OF THE CHINESE REALM AS YOU HAVE NO SKILL, KNOWLEDGE, OR ACUMEN OF ANY OF OUR HISTORY OR TECHNIQUE WHICH, BY THE WAY IS ALMOST 1000 YEARS OLDER THAN THE SKILLS YOU PURPORT TO PRACTICE.....READ YOUR HISTORY FOR ONCE!!