[BLACK PANTA]

against any fighter, lets choose Brok Lesnar being that he'd the biggest craze nowadays. Give us your strategy. Be as realistic as possible.

[zefff]

Ahh...I was going to mention a few levelers then I realised that this is in the MMA forum so err.... I dont know, I would fight at 79kgs and he is probably not far off double that! But realistically, if it were on a K1-Freaks card or something then I would probably look to frustrate him and wear his cardio down by skipping around throwing round kicks and jabs, avoiding the takedown. Then flying scissors/butt scoot takedown for a heel hook, knee bar or toe hold. Attacking his legs is definitely the way to go IMHO.

I would spend the 3 months prep training nothing but my cardio with shoots/sprawls, butt scoots and leg locks...oh and side control escapes.

[admin]

Can I run?

Brock vs Frank Mir was actually a very impressive performance. Mir's status got a little elevated in my book. I always liked that guy, but he seemed to go down the shitty path for a little bit.

Against Brock.... I would definitely work on my bottom game. Sweeps, escapes, etc. I think it hard to attack his arms, but possible triangles work work.
I would also work on kicks and using them to keep distance and punish his legs and midsection. Hes so tall, I wouldn't even bother trying to kick that high, all power would be lost. But me personally, I wouldn't want to stand anyways. So I would use them eventually to setup my takedown.
I would work the guillotine from takedowns, try locking it up right away.
Definitely work on my spawl and takedown counters.
In the gym I would work on explosiveness and cardio.

Zefff made a good point, I bet if you can weather the storm against a guy that size, eventually his cardio will be shot

[The BadBoy]

I would definately want to play the stand up game, plenty of lateral movement, peppering him with straight lefts and rights, throwing the leg kick if he was hurt or moving back.

It would definately have to be a runners game as anybody wanting to stand in front of him would get taken down. As for his cardio, I personally think that Brock's cardio level would be a lot better than that of most heavyweights so I would definately look to finish him standing, hopefully not dragging the fight out to long as my own cardio would have to be phenomenal to play the runner game.

When taken down, becuase of his weight and wrestlers base I think it would be extremely difficult to sweep him. Attacking the legs would be the best option, maybe trying to use the guard or half guard to set him up to take his back.

I'm expecting good things from Brock. I was very impressed by his athletic ability and explosiveness against Mir. In a few years I think he will be a bad match for anybody. He just needs to find a good bunch of guys to train with.

Brock agility and athletic ability is way higher thant that of any heavyweight currently in the UFC. How many other UFC heavyweights do you think could do a shooting start press of the top rpe.

[BLACK PANTA]

Brok's cardio is amazing from what I've heard. I've also seen a bit of his training regime. He's definately not human.

He outweights me by about 115lbs. I wouldn't want to trade stand up with him, and taking him down wouldn't be a good idea. Instead, the most I would do standup, is very wisely and carfully chop his legs with some low roundhouse. I wouldn't pull guard, but attack his ankles/feet ala Imanari style attacks. A knee bar on a big strong guy like that wouldn't be wise for me. It would just be heel hooks or twisting ankle locks. I read someone would try for triangle or guillotine? On THAT neck? I dont really think it's possible unless you're around his size.

Brock is gonna be sick. I can see him dominating the Heavyweight div in and around a year.

[zefff]

Triangle with skinny legs can be really effective but I think it would be tough getting that arm across and the most scary bit would be getting slammed during his escape! I think that would be a KO right off for me if he lifted me from in the triangle.

Although I mentioned leg kicks did you guys see how he powered straight through Mir's kicks for the takedown? I think he anticipated that. Even Mir said it himself after the fight.

[The BadBoy]

Brock will be coming right at you, looking for the takedown. As soon as you kick, he will dump you on your ass. The best time to kick anyone that is looking for a takedown is when they are hurt or backing up.

Panta, PM me your email address. We need to have a chat bro.

[Wilhelm von Wänkenstein]

Reading this thread muzzy from getting up early in the morning when I really didn't have to, I'm suddenly reminded of a bit of advice from Musashi - "Attack the corners."

Lesnar's strength is in his explosiveness and wrestling skills, coupled with his sheer size and strength, and those together make for some nasty takedowns, as we saw in the Frank Mir fight. On the other hand, if there were a way to turn that against him, there'd be a chance of whittling him down to win by decision, at least.

I remember watching a segment from the CroCop/wossname fight (stocky, muscular Japanese wrestler - Fujita, was it?) - CroCop's opponent was a wrestling olympian with all that implies. In that segment, he was diving for a lightning shoot on CroCop, who simply kneed him full in the face, which opened a cut that I think ended the fight. Drawing from that example, I'd train to play a high-risk game in a (strictly hypothetical ) fight with Lesnar, developing footwork and timing for inviting shoots and countering with knees to the head as he comes in. I'd also roust out the biggest, strongest rugby players I can find around here and train to sprawl and brawl against someone that size. If the first knee doesn't stop him, I want to at least have the stability to at least kick my legs free of his hands and throw a few more before running and resetting.

[bamboo]

Once he caught me he'd fucking beat me into a bloody pulp, like 99.9% of everyone here. Unless he slips on the way in, there is no contest.

[The BadBoy]

Well said Bamboo!