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Super Moderator Black Belt 5th Dan
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03-12-2008, 10:50 PM
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In the Shamrock fight, whether it's a work or not, Ken is not fighting his way. He's trying to play a stand up game. He lost to Tito because his emotions got in the way of business and he rushed into Tito for every fight, to the best of my recollection. He's gotta take guys down and stay on top and work his submissions. He should not be trading blows with anyone.
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03-13-2008, 11:29 AM
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To be fair I think his strategy may have been to let Buzz get confident with his striking to expose his legs for a shoot later on but then again Ken never looked like he had a good shoot in him, he looked a bit top heavy and flat footed although his defences looked good until the end. Im not sure about the whole 'work' thing though, its possible but I think he just got hit flush and rocked straight off. It can happen, especially when your opponent has 6 inches and 30lbs on you.
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03-13-2008, 02:15 PM
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I don't think it was a work, however, I do think Ken gave up. I think he was rocked and then went down. I didn't see him woosy or anything so I'm not so sure.
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03-13-2008, 03:41 PM
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Another point is how long before the fight did he land in the UK? Did he have any illnesses, flu etc? When your energy levels arent 100% it sometimes doesnt show until the bell rings and you find yourself thinking "oh shit! whats wrong with my body?"
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03-13-2008, 09:11 PM
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Why can't people just admit that Shamrock is done? He was a great fighter and deserves respect but come on.....just leave gracefully. Just like Mark Coleman. Why the fuck is he going to be fighting Brock Lesnar? He's 44 and hasn't shown anything in his last couple fights.
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03-14-2008, 12:22 PM
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True, true. Money makes us do crazy things. He's already ruined his lagacy really, I barely remember what the real Shamrock was like now. Need to go find some old vids.
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03-14-2008, 02:44 PM
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BUSTED! All I found was this and THIS!!!  
I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt but that angle just gives it all away!  I wonder how much he bet on that fight eh?
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