[Robert_RedBeard]

zefff,

Wow, I never realised I would get such a hostile reaction.

I never knew MA knowledge was about the amount of money you paid for it. Or about making an art sound like much more than it is.

It's just a bunch of the same old "Ancient Chinese Secret" crap.

BTW, I am a student in Hand to Hand Combat. I do not think of myself as a student of any system. At least not any more. I found it to restrictive and prone to ego maniacs.

I have shown no disrespect by asking questions. And if Mr Levin didn't want people like me to know things about KM, then why does he market the videos and books?

I come from a police, military upbringing. I have a long MA history, although most of it is not through paid classes.

There is nothing presented I do not understand. And nothing to hard to figure out.

All I am asking is for people's experience using or practicing the "360 degree" defense.

So if you are not here to answer that question. Then perhaps this isn't the thread for you to be posting this nonsense in. Maybe you can make a thread and name it "Don't help people. They need to pay for any information they get on Martial Arts."!

If nothing else, I am looking for incentive to go train with them. So the hostility is not warranted. I am not trying to cheat anyone out of royalties/dues.

[Robert_RedBeard]

Originally Posted by Wong_Kei_Ying

Thank you, I hope you can still satisfy my curiosity. If the concept, attitude, mentality and simplicity of techniques (in a general sense) aren't inclusive to any system, what makes Krav Maga different in your opinion?

One thing that makes it different is it's recent use in very violent conflicts. The Israeli's being the bullies of the block have had a lot of practice with what they do.

Krav Maga was born of recent COMBAT. That is what makes it most interesting to me. It uses the most recent knowledge of physical training and conditioning to build good fighters.

It does not take long to learn and is in fact meant to be learned quickly and with little buildup or maintainance required to be effective with it.

Impressive, I've never meet anyone who studied SCARS... I'm assuming you're in the Military. To my understanding no military SCARS instructor can teach the SCARS program outside of the U.S.military...

As I said before, I come from a police and military family. I also have many martial artists and police/military in my circle of friends.

I managed to get my hands on some training material and some mat time with a friend experienced in the techniques and principles of SCARS.

[bamboo]

"Use a 360-degree blocking system when being attacked from in front. Rotate your arm upwards, elbow bent, and block the downward movement with the chopper-like edge of your arm. There are six different positions for each arm, depending on the height and direction of the blow. If it's high, raise your arm up as if strap-hanging on the Tube; if it's low, clasp the fingers of both hands together and raise forcefully."

Would this be an appropriate description of the "360" defense?

-cheers,

bamboo

[Robert_RedBeard]

Originally Posted by bamboo

"Use a 360-degree blocking system when being attacked from in front. Rotate your arm upwards, elbow bent, and block the downward movement with the chopper-like edge of your arm. There are six different positions for each arm, depending on the height and direction of the blow. If it's high, raise your arm up as if strap-hanging on the Tube; if it's low, clasp the fingers of both hands together and raise forcefully."

Would this be an appropriate description of the "360" defense?

-cheers,

bamboo

Pretty close.

Mr. Levin teaches 7 positions. And it is an outside defense. I didn't mention that earlier.

[zefff]

Originally Posted by Robert_RedBeard

zefff,

Wow, I never realised I would get such a hostile reaction.

I wasnt being hostile at all, honestly. Just matter of fact.

Originally Posted by Robert_RedBeard

I never knew MA knowledge was about the amount of money you paid for it. Or about making an art sound like much more than it is.

MA practice is all about investment of one kind or another. Money, time, effort, dedication, health etc. Why would anyone who made sacrifices and went out of their way to gain new knowledge and skill suddenly owe a favour to those who havent?

I dont understand your bit about making an art sound...But it seems that you are reading into my post beyond what is actually written. Even if you were interested in boxing I would still say go to a gym over any vid.

Originally Posted by Robert_RedBeard

BTW, I am a student in Hand to Hand Combat. I do not think of myself as a student of any system. At least not any more. I found it to restrictive and prone to ego maniacs.

Thats great. Ego maniacs are usually really crappy teachers so good on you. The thing is though, your prior teaching will affect how you perform techniques from an unfamiliar system. They may look similar but there will definetly be nuances that can only be felt and fully understood from contact with exponents of the art you want to learn.

Originally Posted by Robert_RedBeard

I have shown no disrespect by asking questions. And if Mr Levin didn't want people like me to know things about KM, then why does he market the videos and books?

Are you implying that I have disrespected you? I dont see where I actually did attack you verbally. Excuse me if I am not flowering my words, maybe its your avatar that affects my mood... and welcome to the forum.

Originally Posted by Robert_RedBeard

I come from a police, military upbringing. I have a long MA history, although most of it is not through paid classes.

There is nothing presented I do not understand. And nothing to hard to figure out.

So why didnt you try figuring out how Google works and search 'Krav Maga forum' or 'Krav Maga 360 degree defence'?

Originally Posted by Robert_RedBeard

All I am asking is for people's experience using or practicing the "360 degree" defense.

So if you are not here to answer that question. Then perhaps this isn't the thread for you to be posting this nonsense in. Maybe you can make a thread and name it "Don't help people. They need to pay for any information they get on Martial Arts."!

If nothing else, I am looking for incentive to go train with them. So the hostility is not warranted. I am not trying to cheat anyone out of royalties/dues.

What are you on? Scroll down this link and you'll see a load of links that might have your info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krav_Maga welcome to Fight Authority!

[Robert_RedBeard]

Zefff,

I understand that practice and time are needed. But this is after all a discussion forum. If you do not wish to discuss Krav Maga techniques then you are free not to.

I was not reading into anything in your post. I just don't understand the attitude of exclusion.

I am always happy to discuss anything I have learned. And I see no reason for secrets.

I agree that I need training to learn most effectively. That is not the discussion. And need for training does not make my discussion any less useful.

If you don't wanna let me in on anything then fine.

I still think you are being hostile. And People are most often hostile when they think they are being disrespected. So I made it known that I was not attempting to disrespect anyone or anything.

FYI, I have used google and many sources to research Krav Maga. What would make you think I had not?

You are treating me like I have no idea what I am doing. I joined FightAuthority in an attempt to speak with the fighting community about things I have researched.

And I don't know what your problem with my avatar is.

[Robert_RedBeard]

Oh, thanks for the links.

I'll look through and see if there is anything new to me.