[Robert_RedBeard]

I have been a fan of Krav Maga techniques and training methods for some time now. I haven't had a chance to train with a Krav Maga instructor locally though. I just don't have the $600 to pay for the training.

I have gotten my hands on all the Krav Maga Instructions Videos from Darrel Levin his wife and another chief instructor(I can't remember his name).

I have also added two Krav Maga books to my library. I like what I have read and seen. I have read and reread the books and watched the videos over and over.

What I have observed in classes that I have set in on and what I have learned on my own, Krav Maga just makes sense to me.

But I would like to get others input on a few areas. The Punches elbows and kicks are things that I have been doing for 15 years. So there was nothing new there.

My interest is in the 360 degree defense utilized in Krav Maga.

Are there any Kravists on the board and do you have anything to say about experience with the 360 degree defense?

[bamboo]

Could you send us a link or a film of it in action or perhaps being drilled so the non kravists have an idea what your asking about?

Cheers,
bamboo

[Wong_Kei_Ying]

I'm not a Krav Maga Practioner, but I have experience and I know a bit about the whole "360 degree defense" utilized in Krav Maga. However, you weren't specific about your question. What do you wish to know? How to control your surroundings so that you could see more than just one opponent during a fight? How to improve your attention to detail and ability to spot suspicious behaviour around you so that you can anticipate and perhaps avoid an attack even before it happens?


I do however, have a question for you.

Originally Posted by Robert_RedBeard

...What I have observed in classes that I have set in on and what I have learned on my own, Krav Maga just makes sense to me...

Out of sheer curiosity, what is it you learned about Krav Maga that makes so much sense to you? Is it the: concept, mentality, or attitude?

[Robert_RedBeard]

I'm not sure about the copyright implications if I posted video. And I am not sure how to post a small segment either way.

I may be able to scan a protion of one of my books to illistrate what I am talking about. Then post it PDF if that is allowed.

"Fair Use" wise it should be legal if I keep it short.

It will take some time to get the PDF made. So bare with me.

[Robert_RedBeard]

Originally Posted by Wong_Kei_Ying

I do however, have a question for you.

Out of sheer curiosity, what is it you learned about Krav Maga that makes so much sense to you? Is it the: concept, mentality, or attitude?

One is the reliance on simple techniques that are eassily taught and retained by the student.

Two, the attitude of striking and guarding in unison.

Three, many techniques I have observed in their classes are techniques I have learned elsewhere. So, I know they work.

The only thing I am not sure about is the 360 degree defense techniques.

The concept, attitude and mentality have been around in many systems. I started out learning from RBWI practitioners. There attitude, and fighting mentality match up well with Krav Maga. RBWI only adds deception into the techniques.

RBWI=Robert Bussey's Warrior International

Krav Maga also meshes well with what I learned from the SCARS system. Use of the body's natural weapons and reactions effectively is a big part of what is taught in SCARS.

So, my question isn't very specific. I am just interested in any input from practitioners on the 360 degree defense.



BTW, Thanks for the input so far guys.

[Wong_Kei_Ying]

Originally Posted by Robert_RedBeard

One is the reliance on simple techniques that are eassily taught and retained by the student.

Two, the attitude of striking and guarding in unison.

Three, many techniques I have observed in their classes are techniques I have learned elsewhere. So, I know they work...

...The concept, attitude and mentality have been around in many systems...

Thank you, I hope you can still satisfy my curiosity. If the concept, attitude, mentality and simplicity of techniques (in a general sense) aren't inclusive to any system, what makes Krav Maga different in your opinion?

Originally Posted by Robert_RedBeard

...Krav Maga also meshes well with what I learned from the SCARS system. Use of the body's natural weapons and reactions effectively is a big part of what is taught in SCARS...

Impressive, I've never meet anyone who studied SCARS... I'm assuming you're in the Military. To my understanding no military SCARS instructor can teach the SCARS program outside of the U.S.military...

[zefff]

Why should a Krav Maga student give away the knowledge he/she paid good money for to an outsider anyway?

[BLACK PANTA]

Originally Posted by zefff

Why should a Krav Maga student give away the knowledge he/she paid good money for to an outsider anyway?

Don't understand this question fully. Are you refering ONLY to a Krav Student (if so I'll be even more confused), or MAs students' in general.
Is it a sacastic question, if so, my face is red.

[zefff]

Why would any martial artist?

The guy isnt a student and so wont ever get a full appreciation of the art from videos, books and second hand knowledge. If he wants to learn Krav Maga he has to go to a class.

[Hengest]

Originally Posted by Wong_Kei_Ying

Impressive, I've never meet anyone who studied SCARS... I'm assuming you're in the Military. To my understanding no military SCARS instructor can teach the SCARS program outside of the U.S.military...

Sorry mate, you're mistaken. It may be that military-trained SCARS instructors cannot teach it to the public, but SCARS is widely available from civilian tutors. It's essentially repackaged san soo kung fu and is subject to the same kind of franchising that krav maga is. Ergo, expect to pay large amounts of money for little actual knowledge transmission.

The military never used SCARS in any full-fledged CQB combat programs. It was used in the BUDS course for a short time as a kind of training motivator, but that's no longer the case.