[Tatsukage]

I was wondering, are there any real "practical throws"? Throws that you could actually use in an altercation. I realize that one might be abe to pull off a sacrifice throw, but that would mean both people end up on the ground. Surely, out of all the throws out there, there's at least a couple that actually work without getting into too much of a bind or on the ground? I tried modifying gedanate and ushiroate from my aikido training, and they seem to kind of work, but surely there's something better?

[bamboo]

Ushiro ate and gedanate are both quite practical if you can begin execution while uke is still moving, if he has stopped you can easily turn this into a nice choke/restraint as you are already so close to the back.

Assuming from your terminology you have tomiki training, you already know what does and does not work with a proper resisting uke (wrist locks generally don't work, etc..). So again, based on the aikido side of things I would look at sukomen iriminage, koshinage, iriminage omote. Iriminage is lovely when you use an elbow.

A of couple practical throws I always enjoy from the judo side of things are deashi barai and O soto gari.

Get yourself a wrestler of Bjj man to practice throws with, if you screw up with them, they will take you down quickly.

-bamboo

[Tatsukage]

I was debating about O soto gari. Whenever I bend down to complete, even in kata, not randori, I feel as if I should roll fall, or follow through with something. But, I also learned it where one kicks the leg back when they bend down to gain force. If the leg stays down, might as well throw from the hip. I love ushiroate, but I can't seem to modify that one as of yet. I'll try the ones you mentioned. Thanks for the help. Any other thoughts?

[bamboo]

Just that I like your Basho quote as your signature.

[Tatsukage]

I originally wanted to go with Li Po, but Basho seemed more...well...he didn't die trying to catch the reflection of a moon:P

[Galaknore]

A practical throw that would probably work on the street would be what my school calls the german double. Basically, the setup for it is like you are throwing a head butt to the opponents midsection, and at the same time grabbing behind his knees. You also put one leg between his legs. Its a simple push pull technique, but it will drop your opponent quickly and you do not fall down with them.

[Tatsukage]

I'd be wary though of a technique that places my head in a midsection, dropping the arms to leave myself too open. I could see how it's applicable, but if they side step, or even twist to the side, they can get a guillotine choke hold, and when they drop, you go with them. And on the chance they don't drop, you're still stuck.

[samurai6string]

I'm a big fan of O Soto Gari myself, I think it is a very adaptable throw. If I have an inside tie on Uki's arm, I like to drop into an ude garame, it feels pretty natural just sliding the hand down from the bicep and bring it in to bend the elbow. But I'm sure you've done it before if yu play around with the throw.

[zefff]

I am really shit myself but I am aware that success in throws are down to two things. Talent/intelligence/knowledge and the susceptibility of the opponent.

My favourite is slipping the attack, picking the ankle(s) and stepping on a leg when they are prostate. Crotch grabs are good too. Sorry but I dont know the Japanese terms for these techniques.

[Tease T Tickle]

O soto geri, O soto garuma, Ko soto geri, double leg, single leg, ankle pick, knee pick, high crotch scoop, fireman's carry, and maybe even ippon seoi nage are all pretty high percentage.