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12-05-2004, 03:18 AM
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Ilya, cool&composed's IP matches exactly cool&composed's IP.
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12-05-2004, 08:32 PM
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Well, Shinobi's IP perfectly matches Jimmy Lee's, yet they've been saying very different things.

Connect the dots.
Agenda, anyone?
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12-06-2004, 01:25 AM
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Yes, the agenda is that Shinobi wants to discredit Sonnon and troll internet forums. He creates Jimmy Lee to offer counter points...which he doesn't respond to...either to keep his IP from getting blocked or to redirect the flow of a thread from a troll-flaming spree to an actual discussion...which can be used to discredit Sonnon.

Then what Ilya? He finds another computer with a static IP address to post under a third name to state another opinion supporting Sonnon's work? I'm not convinced.

After watching the video, I think it's very obviously an advertisement and therefore we shouldn't be looking too closely at it for things that are completely useful. However, I also didn't see anything too blatantly out of the question, using flexibility and ground mobility to secure new and different locks or holding positions is a mainstay of just about every groundfighting art I know of.
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12-06-2004, 01:56 AM
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Wrong agenda Des. Try again.

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12-06-2004, 11:36 PM
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I think the agenda is that he uses Shinobi to insult the art and when he responds and Shinobi never responds back it makes him look like and idiot and him look like a hero. It also makes Sonnon look good.
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12-07-2004, 12:46 AM
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Agenda, schmagenda. Let's assume that Shinobi purposefully trolls boards to strike up business for Sonnon et Al. the only way to prove that is to have detailed records monitoring internet activity from specific computers and prove that Person X has used all of these different internet aliases. I don't know of anyone with enough expertise or manpower to do that, except maybe a police force, and there isn't any clear signs of criminal activity that would lead to them starting an investigation.

Therefore, no claim of inappropriate activity can be made here without it being subject to a demand on my part for evidence that I don't believe anyone here can provide me with. Therefore, this thread of trolling and anti-trolling is a worthless waste of space on FA.com's server and will be henceforth locked. Very shortly after, it will be purged. If I see shinobi start another thread, as he is a well known troll, I will delete it. Trolls are not welcome, and anti-trolling is not productive activity, so deleting it at the outset is the only way to keep this site clean of Shinobi's taint, whether that be slander against Sonnon or buzz-producing for Sonnon.

I'm sure you will all understand my decision, and I hope you all can agree with it. Thank you, and good day.
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